Opinion requested

A. G. Maisey · 26th June 2011, 11:10 PM

There can be no doubt that hilts fully covered in silver and gold go back a very long time in history.

There can also be no doubt that Bugis style scabbards and Balinese style scabbards that are fully covered in silver go back to at least the last half of the 19th century.

I only refer to Bugis style and Balinese because these are the only ones that I have seen and handled, and I nominate the time period because this is the time period that I am certain of.

I cannot recall ever having seen Javanese scabbards fully covered in silver.

Gustav · 27th June 2011, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

I cannot recall ever having seen Javanese scabbards fully covered in silver.

Alan, what do you think about the one in van Duuren/Groneman on page 25?

A. G. Maisey · 27th June 2011, 09:11 AM

Javanese, and old, obviously.

But I have never seen one.

When I say something like this I do not count pictures in books, because I rarely look at books, and seldom remember what is in them.My approach with most keris books is to read them as quickly as I can, then put them away and not open again until somebody asks me a question directly related to a particular book.

26th June 2011, 11:10 PM	#1
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,048	There can be no doubt that hilts fully covered in silver and gold go back a very long time in history. There can also be no doubt that Bugis style scabbards and Balinese style scabbards that are fully covered in silver go back to at least the last half of the 19th century. I only refer to Bugis style and Balinese because these are the only ones that I have seen and handled, and I nominate the time period because this is the time period that I am certain of. I cannot recall ever having seen Javanese scabbards fully covered in silver.

27th June 2011, 09:11 AM	#3
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,048	Javanese, and old, obviously. But I have never seen one. When I say something like this I do not count pictures in books, because I rarely look at books, and seldom remember what is in them.My approach with most keris books is to read them as quickly as I can, then put them away and not open again until somebody asks me a question directly related to a particular book.