Has anyone seen anything similar to this sword?

katana · 23rd June 2011, 12:32 AM

Interesting sword indeed. I too would not be surprised if the blade was Indian. The 'script' has runic elements, common across Europe, probably added later. The other noticeable thing is that when the sword is gripped you are effectively 'shaking its hand'. Perhaps relavent....perhaps not. The shaking of hands is symbolic of being unarmed/non threatening (as most people are right handed ....you would have to either 'sheath' your weapon or place it in the left ...to be able to 'offer' your right hand. (unless you happen to be a left hander (sinister) and had murderous intent

Regards David

Rick · 23rd June 2011, 01:59 AM

Not so sure about the hand-shaking part implied here; when you grasp someone's hand it is thumb to thumb.

Suggest the hand is 'sinistre' in the intention of the hilt form .

The rings for the missing chain point to right handed use .

Jeff D · 23rd June 2011, 07:20 AM

I would love to see the entire profile of the blade. The raised forte, and raised yelman(?) suggest Eastern Europe (Hungarian-Polish), Ottoman, maybe Chinese.

Jeff

Gavin Nugent · 23rd June 2011, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff D

I would love to see the entire profile of the blade. The raised forte, and raised yelman(?) suggest Eastern Europe (Hungarian-Polish), Ottoman, maybe Chinese.

Jeff

Well Noted Jeff, I still think 100% Hungarian.....

Tatyana Dianova · 23rd June 2011, 08:44 AM

Redjack: The script is neither old, nor new Cyrillic...

Iain · 23rd June 2011, 11:15 AM

Not sure it is this at all, but the script reminds me of this...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Hungarian_script

There are a number of old script forms and alphabets in central Europe, so while it may not be this one I am semi positive it is from the general area.

ariel · 23rd June 2011, 12:59 PM

Agree with Tatiana: the script is definitely not Cyrillic.
There is an eagle on the blade, looking suspiciously like the USA. The inscription confirms it: "E pluribus unum". In short- USA blade, 19-20 century. Who reworked it, and in what style, is a separate question.
The quillon on one side looks somewhat "nabour-ish", isn't it?

fernando · 23rd June 2011, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ariel

There is an eagle on the blade, looking suspiciously like the USA. The inscription confirms it: "E pluribus unum".

That would be the lower picture, which is another thing ... not the upper one in discussion

23rd June 2011, 12:32 AM	#1
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,658	Interesting sword indeed. I too would not be surprised if the blade was Indian. The 'script' has runic elements, common across Europe, probably added later. The other noticeable thing is that when the sword is gripped you are effectively 'shaking its hand'. Perhaps relavent....perhaps not. The shaking of hands is symbolic of being unarmed/non threatening (as most people are right handed ....you would have to either 'sheath' your weapon or place it in the left ...to be able to 'offer' your right hand. (unless you happen to be a left hander (sinister) and had murderous intent Regards David

23rd June 2011, 01:59 AM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,376	Not so sure about the hand-shaking part implied here; when you grasp someone's hand it is thumb to thumb. Suggest the hand is 'sinistre' in the intention of the hilt form . The rings for the missing chain point to right handed use .

23rd June 2011, 07:20 AM	#3
Jeff D Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: B.C. Canada Posts: 473	I would love to see the entire profile of the blade. The raised forte, and raised yelman(?) suggest Eastern Europe (Hungarian-Polish), Ottoman, maybe Chinese. Jeff

23rd June 2011, 08:44 AM	#5
Tatyana Dianova Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 743	Redjack: The script is neither old, nor new Cyrillic...

23rd June 2011, 11:15 AM	#6
Iain Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Olomouc Posts: 1,719	Not sure it is this at all, but the script reminds me of this... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Hungarian_script There are a number of old script forms and alphabets in central Europe, so while it may not be this one I am semi positive it is from the general area.

23rd June 2011, 12:59 PM	#7
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Agree with Tatiana: the script is definitely not Cyrillic. There is an eagle on the blade, looking suspiciously like the USA. The inscription confirms it: "E pluribus unum". In short- USA blade, 19-20 century. Who reworked it, and in what style, is a separate question. The quillon on one side looks somewhat "nabour-ish", isn't it?