Keris Gayo and the Tajong hilt?

asomotif · 22nd June 2011, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by VVV

When holding and looking at this Keris Gayo somehow it reminds me of a Tajong hilt, even if it is supposed to be a "pimped" Jawa Demam.

Hello Michael,

I know the nose is supposed to be long.
But the silver work on the nose appears newer to me than the other fittings.
Further the tajong influence that comes to mind is the nose.
But that is about it. Otherwise the gayo hilts are indeed cleary derived from jawa demam hilts.

Best regards,
Willem

VVV · 22nd June 2011, 09:37 PM

Willem,

I don't think the "nose job" is newer.
The other resemblance with a Tajong/Coteng, and difference to a Jawa Demam, I tried to illustrate is the position of the limbs. If you look at the Jawa Demam it has the "fever blanket" position with a diagonal arm (see ref. pict. below). This Gayo, as well as the Tajong/Coteng has a more bird like position of the limbs. But it's neither the same as the sitting position of the Burung, pure bird hilt with one hand up and the other down (see other ref. pict.). Hopefully these pictures will illustrate what I wanted to highlight.

Michael

asomotif · 22nd June 2011, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by VVV

Wi This Gayo, as well as the Tajong/Coteng has a more bird like position of the limbs.

Hello Michael,

imho The gayo hilt has the feverblanket position.(see pics)
The other lower "limbs" make me think of bend legs, as in forefather statues

Battara · 22nd June 2011, 10:45 PM

Love the metal work. Looks like suassa and silver. Just not crazy about the extra nose on the hilt.

VVV · 23rd June 2011, 10:41 AM

Yes, now I see the arm Willem.
Sometimes you get blind when you have an idea in your head...

Michael

Sajen · 23rd June 2011, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by VVV

Willem,

I don't think the "nose job" is newer.

Agree by the metal cover over the "nose". I think that this was usual by jawa deman hilts from Gayo. Here a example of my collection.

BTW, very very nice keris you have there Michael!

Regards,

Detlef

VVV · 23rd June 2011, 03:44 PM

Nice to see that my hilt has a cousin in Germany.

Michael

Sajen · 23rd June 2011, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by VVV

Nice to see that my hilt has a cousin in Germany.

Michael

I would be glad when your keris have a cousin here in Germany!

Detlef

Battara · 24th June 2011, 12:44 AM

Very helpful Sajen.

22nd June 2011, 09:37 PM	#2
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Willem, I don't think the "nose job" is newer. The other resemblance with a Tajong/Coteng, and difference to a Jawa Demam, I tried to illustrate is the position of the limbs. If you look at the Jawa Demam it has the "fever blanket" position with a diagonal arm (see ref. pict. below). This Gayo, as well as the Tajong/Coteng has a more bird like position of the limbs. But it's neither the same as the sitting position of the Burung, pure bird hilt with one hand up and the other down (see other ref. pict.). Hopefully these pictures will illustrate what I wanted to highlight. Michael Attached Images

22nd June 2011, 10:45 PM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	Love the metal work. Looks like suassa and silver. Just not crazy about the extra nose on the hilt.

23rd June 2011, 10:41 AM	#5
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Yes, now I see the arm Willem. Sometimes you get blind when you have an idea in your head... Michael

23rd June 2011, 03:44 PM	#7
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Nice to see that my hilt has a cousin in Germany. Michael

24th June 2011, 12:44 AM	#9
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	Very helpful Sajen.