Tulwar with serrated and bifurcated blade

CharlesS · 21st June 2011, 06:22 PM

Jim,

I believe the bifurcated blade is associated with Muslim hero(especially for the Shia)Ali more than Mohammed, though according to tradition it was given to Ali by Mohammed. The style has, in fact, become a symbol of Shia Islam and the Imam Ali even today.

Jim McDougall · 21st June 2011, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by CharlesS

Jim,

I believe the bifurcated blade is associated with Muslim hero(especially for the Shia)Ali more than Mohammed, though according to tradition it was given to Ali by Mohammed. The style has, in fact, become a symbol of Shia Islam and the Imam Ali even today.

Thank you Charles for adding this most important clarification. I had neglected to add that most important element regarding the history of this sword. Though it was one of the number of swords owned by Muhammed and actually one of two swords captured by him in the Battle of Badr (630AD-8AH).
The fame of the sword itself indeed derives from the Imam Ali and of Sh'ia Islam. It indeed serves as the symbol of Sh'ia Islam, and there was of course profound Persian influence in the Mughal courts.

All the best,
Jim

rickystl · 21st June 2011, 07:13 PM

I do not know much about swords (I own only one Tulwar

But I must comment that is a GREAT looking piece. Congrats. Rick.

kino · 22nd June 2011, 05:29 AM

Like Rickystl, I also do not know much about these swords.

Jim and CharlesS, Thanks for sharing your knowledge. I don't know how old the sword is, it has been over cleaned. The previous owner had it polished and etched a few times trying to obtain a pattern of a folded blade, with no success.
I'm hesitant to etch it with ferric chloride, for fear of doing irreversible damage.

Thanks all for the kind words.

21st June 2011, 06:22 PM	#1
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,854	Jim, I believe the bifurcated blade is associated with Muslim hero(especially for the Shia)Ali more than Mohammed, though according to tradition it was given to Ali by Mohammed. The style has, in fact, become a symbol of Shia Islam and the Imam Ali even today.

21st June 2011, 07:13 PM	#3
rickystl Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO area. Posts: 1,630	I do not know much about swords (I own only one Tulwar But I must comment that is a GREAT looking piece. Congrats. Rick.

22nd June 2011, 05:29 AM	#4
kino Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,018	Like Rickystl, I also do not know much about these swords. Jim and CharlesS, Thanks for sharing your knowledge. I don't know how old the sword is, it has been over cleaned. The previous owner had it polished and etched a few times trying to obtain a pattern of a folded blade, with no success. I'm hesitant to etch it with ferric chloride, for fear of doing irreversible damage. Thanks all for the kind words.