Interesting North African, Berber? swords

tom hyle · 19th June 2011, 08:50 AM

Resemblance does suggest connection, but suggestions are not always correct; they are suggestions. One only finds out if they are correct by exploring them freely.

Martin Lubojacky · 14th January 2013, 10:23 PM

Fresh Dom´s thread brought me one and half year back - to this thread about Berber´s swords: Enclosed is photo with streight swords employing the typical handles. It is from Tripolis (Libya), 1898 - 1906

TVV · 14th January 2013, 10:40 PM

Great photo that clearly shows hilts of this type, and links them to Tripoli, Libiya specifically. Well done Martin,
Teodor

Martin Lubojacky · 14th January 2013, 10:49 PM

Thanks. It was pictured of by the traveller Bedrich Machulka

Iain · 15th January 2013, 06:14 PM

Hi Martin, thanks so much for the photo. The example in the Royal Armouries at Leeds is listed as Tunisian, but I guess this shows the style was a bit more widespread. Which makes sense.

Martin Lubojacky · 15th January 2013, 10:29 PM

Hi Iain, it is not so far from South Tunisia to Libian Tripoli. Also Berbers have been living on both sides of the border (using e.g. the same or similar jewelery design).

Andy Stevens · 16th January 2013, 02:14 PM

Martin, thankyou so much for the image, these are interesting swords and it's great to finally say for sure where they come from. Well done that man!

Kubur · 4th November 2016, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iain

Hi Martin, thanks so much for the photo. The example in the Royal Armouries at Leeds is listed as Tunisian, but I guess this shows the style was a bit more widespread. Which makes sense.

Royal armouries Leeds

ariel · 4th November 2016, 10:44 PM

Not so long ago Czerny's tried to sell one as a Tunisian.
Starting price was €1000 + 28% to the house. No bites.....

I also have one with (what I was told) 17-18 century European blade and original scabbard.

14th January 2013, 10:23 PM	#2
Martin Lubojacky Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 843	Fresh Dom´s thread brought me one and half year back - to this thread about Berber´s swords: Enclosed is photo with streight swords employing the typical handles. It is from Tripolis (Libya), 1898 - 1906 Attached Images

14th January 2013, 10:40 PM	#3
TVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,664	Great photo that clearly shows hilts of this type, and links them to Tripoli, Libiya specifically. Well done Martin, Teodor Last edited by TVV; 15th January 2013 at 01:39 AM.

19th June 2011, 08:50 AM	#1
tom hyle Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Houston, TX, USA Posts: 1,254	Resemblance does suggest connection, but suggestions are not always correct; they are suggestions. One only finds out if they are correct by exploring them freely.

14th January 2013, 10:49 PM	#4
Martin Lubojacky Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 843	Thanks. It was pictured of by the traveller Bedrich Machulka

15th January 2013, 06:14 PM	#5
Iain Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Olomouc Posts: 1,717	Hi Martin, thanks so much for the photo. The example in the Royal Armouries at Leeds is listed as Tunisian, but I guess this shows the style was a bit more widespread. Which makes sense.

15th January 2013, 10:29 PM	#6
Martin Lubojacky Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 843	Hi Iain, it is not so far from South Tunisia to Libian Tripoli. Also Berbers have been living on both sides of the border (using e.g. the same or similar jewelery design).

16th January 2013, 02:14 PM	#7
Andy Stevens Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: London Posts: 155	Martin, thankyou so much for the image, these are interesting swords and it's great to finally say for sure where they come from. Well done that man!

4th November 2016, 10:44 PM	#9
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Not so long ago Czerny's tried to sell one as a Tunisian. Starting price was €1000 + 28% to the house. No bites..... I also have one with (what I was told) 17-18 century European blade and original scabbard.