Aceh Peurise Shields for comment

[Atlantia]

Originally Posted by Battara

Nice. My favorite are the last two - more ornate.

thank you, here's the last, a little buckler 22cm, 8 3/4"

[Sajen]

Nice shields. Here are some members (Willem, Maurice and Eric for example) who will be able to tell you more about them.

Regards,

Detlef

[Atlantia]

Originally Posted by Sajen

Nice shields. Here are some members (Willem, Maurice and Eric for example) who will be able to tell you more about them.

Regards,

Detlef

Thanks Detlef.
I really like them, I've been looking for either some of these or Dhals to adorn my walls
I actually don't know too much about these. They are not as commonplace as Dhals, and I'm not sure which types are rarer or what would constitute a 'good' one.

Hopefully the other chaps will tell us more, Maurice are you still tonline tonight?

Best
Gene

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Atlantia

Thanks Detlef.
I really like them, I've been looking for either some of these or Dhals to adorn my walls
I actually don't know too much about these. They are not as commonplace as Dhals, and I'm not sure which types are rarer or what would constitute a 'good' one.

Hopefully the other chaps will tell us more, Maurice are you still tonline tonight?

Best
Gene

Hi Gene,

so far I know are the more plain ones like Maurice and Willem shown in this thread :http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...hlight=peurise
are the older ones and I know that they are a lot more expensive. I have one like you have and a wooden one but still look for examples like Maurice show in this thread. Special a wooven one I like to have one day.
Hope this was from some help, in the thread there are written some interesting informations as well.

Regards,

Detlef

[Atlantia]

Originally Posted by Sajen

Hi Gene,

so far I know are the more plain ones like Maurice and Willem shown in this thread :http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...hlight=peurise
are the older ones and I know that they are a lot more expensive. I have one like you have and a wooden one but still look for examples like Maurice show in this thread. Special a wooven one I like to have one day.
Hope this was from some help, in the thread there are written some interesting informations as well.

Regards,

Detlef

Hi Detlef,

Thanks. I'll have to look for the other types to join mine now
They look great on the wall don't they?
Is your metal one small?
Would it be possible to see the back of the wooden one?
I'm happy with this first four to start the collection, there is a lot of variation even in them.

Thanks again
Gene

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Atlantia

Hi Detlef,

Thanks. I'll have to look for the other types to join mine now
They look great on the wall don't they?
Is your metal one small?
Would it be possible to see the back of the wooden one?
I'm happy with this first four to start the collection, there is a lot of variation even in them.

Thanks again
Gene

Hi Gene,

yes they look nice at the wall but I am afraid that both from my collection not old ones. The plain brass ones are thick and heavy but the ones we have not so heavy. My brass one have a diameter from 27 cm and the wooden one 43 cm. Since Albert Zonneveld describe in his book on page 106 five types of this shields ( peurise awe/rattan, peurise kajee/wood, peurise nilo/buffalo hide, peurise paru/skin from sting-ray and peurise teumaga/brass) I think that there should be old wooden shields as well. I have heard that these shields was make already in early times for tourists.

Regards,

Detlef

[Maurice]

Originally Posted by Sajen

The plain brass ones are thick and heavy but the ones we have not so heavy. ) I think that there should be old wooden shields as well. I have heard that these shields was make already in early times for tourists.

Regards,

Detlef

Yes you're right about that Detlef, the plain ones are surprisingly heavy unlike the more decorative ones.
But as suggested, amongst them there are also with nice patina, and nicely made grips, just not made for real warfare...

I've seen wooden ones with some good patina, but also never made for war..

[Maurice]

Hi Gene,

I only can tell you my own findings about these shields, when I did a little research for my own on these shields.

In the real old museumcollections, the brass shields from Aceh are all very plain, and besides the knobs, at the most a few rings or even nothing as decoration.
Also the brass Aceh shields within private collections with provenance of being pre 1900, are all plain and not that heavily decorated...

When you see these decorated brass shields in museumcollections, the earliest were collected in the first half of the 20th century (mostly the latter part of the first half even), or even the last half of the 20th century.
So some of these more decorated shields have nice old patina though.
A senior collector ones told me they are minangkabau shields...

Hope this is a bit usefull,
Maurice

[Atlantia]

Originally Posted by Maurice

Hi Gene,

I only can tell you my own findings about these shields, when I did a little research for my own on these shields.

In the real old museumcollections, the brass shields from Aceh are all very plain, and besides the knobs, at the most a few rings or even nothing as decoration.
Also the brass Aceh shields within private collections with provenance of being pre 1900, are all plain and not that heavily decorated...

When you see these decorated brass shields in museumcollections, the earliest were collected in the first half of the 20th century (mostly the latter part of the first half even), or even the last half of the 20th century.
So some of these more decorated shields have nice old patina though.
A senior collector ones told me they are minangkabau shields...

Hope this is a bit usefull,
Maurice

Hi Maurice

Very helpful thanks.
I notice that the old 'plain' ones look 'spun' and quite thin compared to the cast ones?
I had already assumed that these were 20thC (hopefully first half). Thats fine, they are a whole lot nicer than their 20th century brass Indian counterparts!

Best
Gene