Rencong Triple Gold Crown and Black Coral

asomotif · 8th June 2011, 12:27 AM

Here is an example I found on the web.
Collection Tropenmuseum.
Not the unusual type of golden crown on this one

Battara · 8th June 2011, 02:04 AM

Thank you Asomotif and Erik.

Erik - have never seen the end of this type before and therefore did not know that the end cap was filigree with a stone.

Below are your museum pictures filtered to see more detail for our forum records.

Jonno · 8th June 2011, 06:09 AM

Here another example from a private collection.

John
www.atchin.nl

Battara · 8th June 2011, 07:37 AM

Thank you Jonno. I have looked at these rencongs from a link by another member in this thread and have noticed that several of these have gold sections missing from them.

erikscollectables · 8th June 2011, 09:19 AM

100% perfect ones are really really rare - most have a problem somewhere...

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Originally Posted by Battara

Thank you Jonno. I have looked at these rencongs from a link by another member in this thread and have noticed that several of these have gold sections missing from them.

erikscollectables · 8th June 2011, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Battara

Thank you Asomotif and Erik.

Erik - have never seen the end of this type before and therefore did not know that the end cap was filigree with a stone.
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Hi Jose,

This is not always the case - most often it is the same as the other parts flat with enamel inlay. Stones you see more often but stone and the filigree is quite rare I think.

My expectation is that is you had to have to buy the gold for the rear piece and then also the time of a jeweller to make it you would spend more than on buying a perfect old example. Remember the gold is above 18k and current gold prices are not funny at all....nor are jewellers hourly wages and this would take a bit of time for someone to make....

Best regards, Erik

Battara · 8th June 2011, 05:41 PM

Yes I have been thinking of that. The most I think I could afford is for the crowns to be complete. I figure that getting the whole piece restored in gold would be around $2000+.

I will restrict myself only to the crowns and the scabbard.

asomotif · 8th June 2011, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Battara

Yes I have been thinking of that. The most I think I could afford is for the crowns to be complete. I figure that getting the whole piece restored in gold would be around $2000+.

I will restrict myself only to the crowns and the scabbard.

Maybe use gold plated silver

Jonno · 8th June 2011, 09:33 PM

If the rencong was mine, then would leave it like this.
You'll always see the restored parts.... and it is not restoring but replacing.

John
www.atchin.nl

Battara · 9th June 2011, 04:12 AM

A good point John. I am working on the scabbard now, but for the crowns, we'll see. I will certainly let the rest go and go no further.

asomotif · 10th June 2011, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonno

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www.atchin.nl

Hello John, (and Erik and Karel)

I like the website a lot.
Nice updates the last 2 weeks.
A pitty for non dutch forumites. But even then , the pictures are great too

Best regards,
Willem

Battara · 19th June 2025, 11:13 PM

Years later, here is the scabbard I made for it. Just now getting around to posting. One day I may restore the gold and enamel end myself. That will be years from now though. I need to teach myself better engraving first (in my spare time

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Teaching myself how to carve the way they did for these scabbards, I did the carvings and the silver bands. I decided to cover the ivory in black acrylic paint - looks better to me.

8th June 2011, 12:27 AM	#1
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,237	Here is an example I found on the web. Collection Tropenmuseum. Not the unusual type of golden crown on this one Attached Images

8th June 2011, 02:04 AM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,345	Thank you Asomotif and Erik. Erik - have never seen the end of this type before and therefore did not know that the end cap was filigree with a stone. Below are your museum pictures filtered to see more detail for our forum records. Attached Images

8th June 2011, 06:09 AM	#3
Jonno Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 51	Here another example from a private collection. John www.atchin.nl Attached Images

19th June 2025, 11:13 PM	#12
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,345	Years later, here is the scabbard I made for it. Just now getting around to posting. One day I may restore the gold and enamel end myself. That will be years from now though. I need to teach myself better engraving first (in my spare time ). Teaching myself how to carve the way they did for these scabbards, I did the carvings and the silver bands. I decided to cover the ivory in black acrylic paint - looks better to me. Attached Images Last edited by Battara; 20th June 2025 at 05:36 AM.

8th June 2011, 07:37 AM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,345	Thank you Jonno. I have looked at these rencongs from a link by another member in this thread and have noticed that several of these have gold sections missing from them.

8th June 2011, 05:41 PM	#7
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,345	Yes I have been thinking of that. The most I think I could afford is for the crowns to be complete. I figure that getting the whole piece restored in gold would be around $2000+. I will restrict myself only to the crowns and the scabbard.

8th June 2011, 09:33 PM	#9
Jonno Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 51	If the rencong was mine, then would leave it like this. You'll always see the restored parts.... and it is not restoring but replacing. John www.atchin.nl

9th June 2011, 04:12 AM	#10
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,345	A good point John. I am working on the scabbard now, but for the crowns, we'll see. I will certainly let the rest go and go no further.