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Old 7th June 2011, 09:03 PM   #1
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Default Akar Bahar and gold hilt

As requested a few pictures of my version
Stil very very happy with that one!

The black coral is very delicate so you see quite often either two parts of Akar Bahar for the curve or the type of handle without the end angle piece. Or as in my case a gold cover to strengthen the angle.

If I had had to restore this one I would probably have made it rounded ipo extended. That is very hard to notice and could easily have been done originally too or have been an old repair and it is the easiest solution. Here someone put quite a bit of work in restoring it where there would have been easier options so there might be a reason behind it?

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Old 7th June 2011, 10:27 PM   #2
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The black coral is very delicate so you see quite often either two parts of Akar Bahar for the curve or the type of handle without the end angle piece.
Here are the budget versions of Akar bahar hilts.

Ps. I think the ivory piece is a western recent addition.
I have never seen this on old museum collection pieces.
But replacing a gold cover with enamel seems like madness to me.
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Old 7th June 2011, 10:31 PM   #3
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Here are the budget versions of Akar bahar hilts.

Ps. I think the ivory piece is a western recent addition.
I have never seen this on old museum collection pieces.
But replacing a gold cover with enamel seems like madness to me.
Willem,

I think it would be a big challange for you in your noble smith class....

Nice rencongs BTW.

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Willem,

I think it would be a big challange for you in your noble smith class....
Noble smith
I found "Silversmith" and "forging".

But restoring the end cap in gold, with chisseling and enamel work...
It looks like a very tough job.

Would it be possible Jose ??
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Old 7th June 2011, 10:44 PM   #5
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Noble smith
I found "Silversmith" and "forging".
Well Willem as you're a noble man, I thought Noble smith was more eligible to use...
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But restoring the end cap in gold, with chisseling and enamel work...
It looks like a very tough job.

Would it be possible Jose ??
Well, may be a little above my skills. I'm not sure. Would rather find someone else to do this, at least the gold work. Not worried about the enamel work as much as the gold work. However the gold itself is expensive. Will take to a jeweler friend for opinions.

Any suggestions or referrals would be welcome.
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Old 7th June 2011, 11:27 PM   #7
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Here is an example I found on the web.
Collection Tropenmuseum.
Not the unusual type of golden crown on this one
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Thank you Asomotif and Erik.

Erik - have never seen the end of this type before and therefore did not know that the end cap was filigree with a stone.

Below are your museum pictures filtered to see more detail for our forum records.
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Old 8th June 2011, 12:30 PM   #9
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Here are the budget versions of Akar bahar hilts.
Still rare examples and very nice - I like the black coral a lot but it is very unpractical for a fighting knife what most rencongs essentialy are...
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