Display ideas.

[Atlantia]

Originally Posted by kahnjar1

Hi Gene,
Nice display but IMHO as previously commented, the "heavy" mounting board detracts from the items. My pick would be perspex to construct a rack of.
Personally I like to see the items "floating" rather than heavily attached to something. I have published the following pics before, but they give example of my meaning.
Stu

Hi Stu,

I think that perhaps of all of us, you have the collection that is the most difficult to display.
So perhaps it is only fair that you have the advantage of having such an amazing collection

As you know I only have two Arabian daggers (both with belts) and I can see why so many have sadly been parted from their belts, presumably in some cases by collectors wanting to more easily display them.

I have to say that for me (and I know it's just personal taste) I wanted a 'traditional' wooden main display rack. But it was also important that it could accomodate a variety of swords including straight, curved, long, short, bare bladed or in a variety of width scabbards.
With all that in mind, there were always going to have to be compromises.
The last one I made used wooden hooks like a Katana rack, but I found that bare blades tend to lean forwards or back and not want to sit 'straight'.
So! I did a few experiments and having looked at a friends tried the 'pegs' approach.
If you use a shallow angle on the pegs, and combine them with sturdy back 'pillars' the blades tend to sit straight and not 'tip forwards'. Also, it seems to work (as you can see in the pic) for just about any type of blade or scabbard.

Combined with centrally placed pegs and a back board for daggers.......
Then a top and bottom shelf for 'sundries'...


So I can put my long Jambiya on the top shelf because the belt fold nicely to form a 'stand' of sorts, but I still had no way to display the Khanjar....

I actually am going to try a 'futuristic' acrylic stand for it when I get time. But for now I think the Chinese plate stand (because it's a nice one) looks pretty good!

Best
Gene

[kahnjar1]

Originally Posted by Atlantia

Hi Stu,

I think that perhaps of all of us, you have the collection that is the most difficult to display.
So perhaps it is only fair that you have the advantage of having such an amazing collection

As you know I only have two Arabian daggers (both with belts) and I can see why so many have sadly been parted from their belts, presumably in some cases by collectors wanting to more easily display them.

I have to say that for me (and I know it's just personal taste) I wanted a 'traditional' wooden main display rack. But it was also important that it could accomodate a variety of swords including straight, curved, long, short, bare bladed or in a variety of width scabbards.
With all that in mind, there were always going to have to be compromises.
The last one I made used wooden hooks like a Katana rack, but I found that bare blades tend to lean forwards or back and not want to sit 'straight'.
So! I did a few experiments and having looked at a friends tried the 'pegs' approach.
If you use a shallow angle on the pegs, and combine them with sturdy back 'pillars' the blades tend to sit straight and not 'tip forwards'. Also, it seems to work (as you can see in the pic) for just about any type of blade or scabbard.

Combined with centrally placed pegs and a back board for daggers.......
Then a top and bottom shelf for 'sundries'...


So I can put my long Jambiya on the top shelf because the belt fold nicely to form a 'stand' of sorts, but I still had no way to display the Khanjar....

I actually am going to try a 'futuristic' acrylic stand for it when I get time. But for now I think the Chinese plate stand (because it's a nice one) looks pretty good!

Best
Gene

I can assure you that I have never (and would never) remove any belts from any Jambiya that I might acquire! Those you see without belts came that way, and I very much doubt that anyone would remove a belt just to make it easier to display!
Stu

[kahnjar1]

Gene....further to my previous comments regarding the use of perspex/acrylic, check out DOMs post MY EDGHED WEAPONS MAY 2011 and you will see what I mean.
Stu

[Berkley]

Originally Posted by kahnjar1

Gene....further to my previous comments regarding the use of perspex/acrylic, check out DOMs post MY EDGHED WEAPONS MAY 2011 and you will see what I mean.
Stu

Dom has a magnificent collection, and I agree that the acrylic stands avoid distracting from the object itself. I have not found any acrylic racks, however, that are designed for wall mounting. At some point the available horizontal surfaces become a bit crowded.

[kahnjar1]

Originally Posted by Berkley

Dom has a magnificent collection, and I agree that the acrylic stands avoid distracting from the object itself. I have not found any acrylic racks, however, that are designed for wall mounting. At some point the available horizontal surfaces become a bit crowded.

Hi Berkeley,
Long time no hear! Suggestion regarding wall mounting of acrylic stands would be to fashion some L shaped pieces of acrylic and attach to the original stand using suitable PVC cement which fuses the surfaces (as used with PVC Gutter)
Regards Stuart

[Gavin Nugent]

Originally Posted by kahnjar1

Hi Berkeley,
Long time no hear! Suggestion regarding wall mounting of acrylic stands would be to fashion some L shaped pieces of acrylic and attach to the original stand using suitable PVC cement which fuses the surfaces (as used with PVC Gutter)
Regards Stuart

They can also be drilled, tapped and screwed as a local acrylic custom works does 5 mins form my home.

[kai]

I guess this is just a glitch, Stuart? Just to avoid others messing things up: acrylic and PVC are very different beasts. I'd recommend to only utilize dedicated adhesives for each.

Regards,
Kai

[kahnjar1]

Originally Posted by kai

I guess this is just a glitch, Stuart? Just to avoid others messing things up: acrylic and PVC are very different beasts. I'd recommend to only utilize dedicated adhesives for each.

Regards,
Kai

Yes ....sorry Kai. I probably did not clearly convey what I meant, which was to use a cement which fused the acrylic. The PVC Gutter thing was used as an example.
Regards Stuart

[fernando]

Originally Posted by Berkley

... and I agree that the acrylic stands avoid distracting from the object itself...

Sure thing, Berkley

Originally Posted by Berkley

... I have not found any acrylic racks, however, that are designed for wall mounting...

Like so?

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[mrwizard]

Hello Fernando,
After seeing your beautiful cup-hilt swords on the wall, i had an idea. With the right type of string this fixation is nearly invisible and surprisingly stable.

btw. disregard the sword. It's just a modern made replica.

Best Regards,
Thilo

[Dom]

Hi guys,
very sad to don't share with you ideas of display,
but for the time being, I'm in this stage ...
in one/two months, I should be in the picture

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Dom

[Atlantia]

Originally Posted by kahnjar1

I can assure you that I have never (and would never) remove any belts from any Jambiya that I might acquire! Those you see without belts came that way, and I very much doubt that anyone would remove a belt just to make it easier to display!
Stu

Oh god no, I didn't mean you personally. I mean't that I can see why it may have happened in the past when collectors were a little less 'appreciative' of these items.
Of course I know you wouldn't do such a thing mate

P.S. I've seen much worse things done to display weapons: Scabbards discarded, hilts drilled.....

Best
Gene

[kahnjar1]

Originally Posted by Atlantia

Oh god no, I didn't mean you personally. I mean't that I can see why it may have happened in the past when collectors were a little less 'appreciative' of these items.
Of course I know you wouldn't do such a thing mate

P.S. I've seen much worse things done to display weapons: Scabbards discarded, hilts drilled.....

Best
Gene

Of course not Gene. I did not for a moment think it was aimed at me, but it appears that the majority of these things which come up for sale tend NOT to have the belt attached, if of course they ever did. Somewhere on the Forum I think there was a post relating to the making of (particularly) Yemeni Jambiya, and in that country at least, most of the parts are made by different tradesmen......Blade, Handle, Belt etc., and assembled, rather than being made as one piece.
Did you have a look at DOMs post? His use of Acrylic/Perspex looks absolutely great IMHO.
By the way you have email.
Stu

[Dom]

Originally Posted by kahnjar1

Did you have a look at DOMs post? His use of Acrylic/Perspex looks absolutely great IMHO.

just to help (?) you
don't be upset agains me because it's in French
but I didn't found something similar in English
the pics could give you ideas, and may be in your native countries,
you should found someone able to made more or less ... a copy ??
http://www.adequate-vitrine.fr/accessoire_soclage.php

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Dom

[Ibrahiim al Balooshi]

Originally Posted by Atlantia

Hi Stu,

I think that perhaps of all of us, you have the collection that is the most difficult to display.
So perhaps it is only fair that you have the advantage of having such an amazing collection

As you know I only have two Arabian daggers (both with belts) and I can see why so many have sadly been parted from their belts, presumably in some cases by collectors wanting to more easily display them.

I have to say that for me (and I know it's just personal taste) I wanted a 'traditional' wooden main display rack. But it was also important that it could accomodate a variety of swords including straight, curved, long, short, bare bladed or in a variety of width scabbards.
With all that in mind, there were always going to have to be compromises.
The last one I made used wooden hooks like a Katana rack, but I found that bare blades tend to lean forwards or back and not want to sit 'straight'.
So! I did a few experiments and having looked at a friends tried the 'pegs' approach.
If you use a shallow angle on the pegs, and combine them with sturdy back 'pillars' the blades tend to sit straight and not 'tip forwards'. Also, it seems to work (as you can see in the pic) for just about any type of blade or scabbard.

Combined with centrally placed pegs and a back board for daggers.......
Then a top and bottom shelf for 'sundries'...


So I can put my long Jambiya on the top shelf because the belt fold nicely to form a 'stand' of sorts, but I still had no way to display the Khanjar....

I actually am going to try a 'futuristic' acrylic stand for it when I get time. But for now I think the Chinese plate stand (because it's a nice one) looks pretty good!

Best
Gene

Salaams, Its an interesting subject and we were just looking at the different designs ~ We tend to be a bit old fashioned .. so we are looking to re engineer an old Omani Door to take say 15 to 20 Omani swords rather like the woodwork version with the pegs. For the modern look perspex looks great.