Handgonnes with iron stock

[Spiridonov]

Else. Length 860 mm:

[Matchlock]

Hi Alexander,

The first two tiller haquebuts can be closely dated to ca. 1500 and were offered for sale at a Munich auction house.

The third item is a crude modern forgery!

Thanks for posting,
Michael

[Spiridonov]

Thank You for answer, Michael. Do You know anything about horseshoe mark? Do You have photos of handgonnes with iron stock which is 1460-80 years?

[Matchlock]

Hi Alexander,

I do not think that I've seen that horseshoe mark before.

Please see my older thread on tiller guns from the 2nd half of the 15th century:

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ht=tiller+guns

Best,
Michael

[Matchlock]

In the Musée de l'Armée, Paris, inv.no. M.1, ca. 1430, the period when hooks seemed to appear for the first time; made of wrought-iron bars and rings (Stabringgeschütz).

As the touch hole should be situated on top but obviously is not on the photo it seems that the ring bearing the hook is movable and displaced from its working position.


m

[fernando]

Originally Posted by Matchlock

In the Musée de l'Armée, Paris, inv.no. M.1, ca. 1430, the period when hooks seemed to appear for the first time; made of wrought-iron bars and rings (Stabringgeschütz).

m

What would its caliber be, Michl ?

[Matchlock]

Hi 'Nando,

That's what I would like to now too but the museum catalog I scanned the image from does not provide any measurements, and when I attended the Musée de l'Armée by special appointment and was allowed to photograph anything I wished to, the Medieval Department was sadly closed.
Thus I could not see or access the piece but I estimate its overall length to be ca. 60-70 cm, which would make a bore of ca. 20-30 mm seem reasonable.
As the barrel walls seem relatively thin it is probable that, as was often the case, the originally smaller 'bore' was widened during the later working life of the gonne.

Best,
Michl