Interesting scabbard/hilt bone

[Henk]

Tourist stuff.

Sorry.

[asomotif]

Interesting scabbard indeed.

I knew the moulded handles, and also moulded sewar scabbards
But this is the first moulded madurese scabbard I see.

Not the real deal as already mentioned by the others.
But this website is about learning, so interesting to see this material.

Best regards,
Willem

[David]

Originally Posted by asomotif

But this website is about learning, so interesting to see this material.

Frankly Willem, i'm more disturbed than interested...

[Rick]

This stuff is like rock hard plaster of Paris .
I have seen this material also <from the losing end> .












Education costs money .

[A. G. Maisey]

Artisana, it is exactly as Rick has said:-

education costs money

real keris, whether old or recent are not cheap, especially when they are purchased in Indonesia.

People with limited experience often have the idea that if one goes to the source, one is able to acquire genuine old, or good quality keris --- or other artifacts --- at a lower price than if they buy outside of the area of origin. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Unless one is an accepted member of the keris trade in Indonesia, it is very likely that one will acquire keris that do have a great value as, let us say, "teaching pieces". That is, keris that when one has gained sufficient knowledge and experience, do have the very valuable property of being examples of what to avoid.

I continually see examples of keris and other weapons that have been acquired in Indonesia by people who are inadequately prepared to buy in that country. Very occasionally I will see something that is a true find, mostly what I see is the product of an experienced dealer, or a shyster, who has managed to convince an inexperienced person to part with some money.

Usually I do not comment on these keris unless I am pointedly and privately asked.

However, in your case it is obvious to me that you do need a little bit of advice, if you are prepared to accept it.

May I most respectfully suggest that if you have an interest in the keris, that you do not spend a single penny more until you have spent some time going through some of the threads in this Forum, and accessing some good reading material.

Here is a link to a reasonably good reading list:-

http://www.kerisattosanaji.com/kerisinformation.html

[artisana]

Thanks gentlemen for the assistance!
Yes i need a lot of reading and i will do so..
I did not expect to get exceptional items but neither did i expect to get total rubbish since the so called "dukun" was longtime friend of my wifes family .. but apparently this not means anything to him..and this did not keep him from cheating .. sad but reality.
As being an atheist I was really open to learn about the mystic world but this scam is a serious holdback and true dissapointment.
Thanks again
Alain

[asomotif]

Originally Posted by David

Frankly Willem, i'm more disturbed than interested...

Rick, I fully agree. but therefore interesting as a form of "detecting the fakes".