Old keris bagaspati?

Alam Shah · 22nd May 2011, 05:41 PM

This KLO is probably meant as a charm or amulet, for esoteric use. It was probably made for the local market. I've seen a wide range of such objects when visiting keris markets in Java, stockist for the so-called supernatural 'dukun' (witch doctor) and the likes.

I asked many whom swear by these objects, called 'barang tarik' which literally means, 'pulled out' items from the mystical world, why only low quality objects are found and not those which are of good quality workmanship?

A. G. Maisey · 23rd May 2011, 12:50 AM

The power of a charm is in the belief of the person who carries the charm.

It is not in the charm itself.

The power of the dukun is in the belief of the person who engages his services.

Put simply:- if you believe that something has a special power, it does have that power --- for you.

Keris, and all sorts of other things, can be taken from "another dimension" .

Yesterday they were to be found in the stock of a local dealer.

All this business is good salesmanship and sulap.

David · 23rd May 2011, 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

The power of a charm is in the belief of the person who carries the charm.

It is not in the charm itself.

The power of the dukun is in the belief of the person who engages his services.

Put simply:- if you believe that something has a special power, it does have that power --- for you.

Keris, and all sorts of other things, can be taken from "another dimension" .

Yesterday they were to be found in the stock of a local dealer.

All this business is good salesmanship and sulap.

100% agreement!

Alam Shah · 23rd May 2011, 02:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

All this business is good salesmanship and sulap.

Agreed with your comments and especially this one.

22nd May 2011, 05:41 PM	#1
Alam Shah Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,248	This KLO is probably meant as a charm or amulet, for esoteric use. It was probably made for the local market. I've seen a wide range of such objects when visiting keris markets in Java, stockist for the so-called supernatural 'dukun' (witch doctor) and the likes. I asked many whom swear by these objects, called 'barang tarik' which literally means, 'pulled out' items from the mystical world, why only low quality objects are found and not those which are of good quality workmanship? Last edited by Alam Shah; 23rd May 2011 at 12:36 AM. Reason: remove comment

23rd May 2011, 12:50 AM	#2
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,992	The power of a charm is in the belief of the person who carries the charm. It is not in the charm itself. The power of the dukun is in the belief of the person who engages his services. Put simply:- if you believe that something has a special power, it does have that power --- for you. Keris, and all sorts of other things, can be taken from "another dimension" . Yesterday they were to be found in the stock of a local dealer. All this business is good salesmanship and sulap.