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|  19th May 2011, 04:41 PM | #1 | 
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			3 beautiful barrel from Heeresgeschichtliches museum in Wienna. They all made from bronze. Length of upper barrel is about 575 mm. Calibre is about 15 mm. I don't know exactly because i have put my scale through the glass. Michael, Do You know parameters of he upper handgonne? p/s it looks like barrels from Bulgaria. | 
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|  19th May 2011, 04:42 PM | #2 | 
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|  19th May 2011, 04:58 PM | #3 | 
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			Barrels from one of Bulgariains museums.
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|  19th May 2011, 06:17 PM | #4 | |
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 Hi Alexander, I sadly do not have the measurements of these haquebuts in Vienna but I can tell you that all of them can be dated to the late 15th c. up to ca. 1500, and that all were Austrian, mostly Styrian productions made by barrelsmiths like Sebald Pögl, who also furnished pieces for other armories, e.g. those in Bulgaria and Czechia. That's why they look so similar.   Best, Michael | |
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|  26th July 2020, 11:57 AM | #5 | 
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			I found this between a catch of fish in the noth sea outside de river thames
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|  27th July 2020, 06:27 AM | #6 | 
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			Interesting!   Is there a touchhole drilled into one side of the barrel, at the rear, that connects with the bore?  Any markings?   How is the smaller-diameter "stem" in back attached --  does it look like a separate piece screwed in or brazed on, or does this thing look like it was cast in one piece?  Finally, what kind of alloy do you think the metal is -- bronze, brass, or  just copper?
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|  2nd August 2020, 10:31 AM | #7 | |
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 Hoi Philip Thre is a small hole at the end the last part close to the thread Is made from bronze i thinck As far i can see it looks made in one piece The last part above the thread is conical made | |
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|  2nd August 2020, 05:04 PM | #8 | |
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 Hoi Philip Thre is a small hole at the end the last part close to the thread Is made from bronze i thinck As far i can see it looks made in one piece The last part above the thread is conical made | |
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|  27th July 2020, 07:25 PM | #9 | |
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 Interesting piece, could you send me some more HD pictures please? What is the bore diameter? Looks like a small caliber. The threaded haft is something i never have seen before either. Very cool piece. | |
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|  28th July 2020, 05:14 PM | #10 | 
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			Marcus, are you determining that this is an actual cannon barrel ?
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|  28th July 2020, 05:37 PM | #11 | |
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  Added: Here is a picture of a 16th century candlestick. Take away the bottom and top..? Last edited by Marcus den toom; 28th July 2020 at 06:55 PM. | |
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|  2nd August 2020, 10:24 AM | #12 | |
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 Hoi Marcus The bore hole is 17 mm and on the end close to the thread ther is a small hole and inside as far i can see there are groves | |
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|  2nd August 2020, 04:19 PM | #13 | |
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 Could you show us a picture of the possible touchhole please? | |
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|  3rd August 2020, 01:39 PM | #14 | |
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|  4th August 2020, 06:48 AM | #15 | |
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 When you stick a rod down the bore, does it go all the way to the touchhole? Or might there be something inside that plugs it up before then? | |
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|  25th July 2018, 08:48 PM | #16 | |
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 Hi Spiridonov, These guns have been published in Wilfried Tittmanns PhD thesis (Bochum 2015, unfortunatelly it´s only in German). Following Tittmann the guns from your post are in fact arabian/ottoman weapons, so Bulgaria wasn´t the badest idea.   | |
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