Kindjal / Qama with gold and silver koftgari for ID

Atlantia · 10th May 2011, 09:59 PM

It's beautiul David!
An excellent example. Well done and hearty congratulations

katana · 13th May 2011, 12:07 AM

Thank you for the further info Abdullatif, appreciated.

Hi Gene,
thanks, I'm very pleased with my first Kindjal.

The stamp.....does anyone know whether this is a makers mark ? Could this blade be from Dagestan ? Most of the multi fullered blades like mine tend to be discribed as such.

Regards David

Zifir · 13th May 2011, 10:45 AM

Hi,
The second line can be translated as follows:

Help us, the patron of our order (tarikat) Hacı Bektaş-ı Veli

katana · 13th May 2011, 01:12 PM

Thank you very much Zifir for the translation

Could you tell me the language used ?

Kind Regards David

Zifir · 14th May 2011, 10:48 AM

Hi David,
The language in the second line is Ottoman Turkish. If we take the reference to the Bektashi order as an evidence, the origin might be either Anatolia or the Balkans. Also, I think the date is 1318 (1900/1901) rather than 1218.

Best,

Zifir

katana · 14th May 2011, 12:05 PM

Hi Zifir

,
again thank you for the information, very interesting

Kind Regards David

katana · 17th May 2011, 07:36 PM

I have been able to clean out the stamped maker's mark (?) and have drawn it (pic below) It is not two 'P' 's afterall.

Can anyone help ID please, thank you

Kind Regards David

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13th May 2011, 10:45 AM	#3
Zifir Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Istanbul Posts: 228	Hi, The second line can be translated as follows: Help us, the patron of our order (tarikat) Hacı Bektaş-ı Veli Attached Images

17th May 2011, 07:36 PM	#7
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,658	I have been able to clean out the stamped maker's mark (?) and have drawn it (pic below) It is not two 'P' 's afterall. Can anyone help ID please, thank you Kind Regards David . Attached Images

10th May 2011, 09:59 PM	#1
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	It's beautiul David! An excellent example. Well done and hearty congratulations

13th May 2011, 12:07 AM	#2
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,658	Thank you for the further info Abdullatif, appreciated. Hi Gene, thanks, I'm very pleased with my first Kindjal. The stamp.....does anyone know whether this is a makers mark ? Could this blade be from Dagestan ? Most of the multi fullered blades like mine tend to be discribed as such. Regards David

13th May 2011, 01:12 PM	#4
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,658	Thank you very much Zifir for the translation Could you tell me the language used ? Kind Regards David

14th May 2011, 10:48 AM	#5
Zifir Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Istanbul Posts: 228	Hi David, The language in the second line is Ottoman Turkish. If we take the reference to the Bektashi order as an evidence, the origin might be either Anatolia or the Balkans. Also, I think the date is 1318 (1900/1901) rather than 1218. Best, Zifir

14th May 2011, 12:05 PM	#6
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,658	Hi Zifir , again thank you for the information, very interesting Kind Regards David