Piso Podang Batak or Borneo?

Maurice · 24th April 2011, 07:51 PM

Hi Erik,

As far as I know the Borneo types used by the seadayak/Iban, or the podangs used by the Dusun in English North Borneo, all have brass handles.

If somebody has a Borneo type of podang with wilver pommel, I would love to see an image of it.

Best regards,
Maurice

Maurice · 24th April 2011, 07:59 PM

Oh and because it is was in the same collection with Batak pieces, and I have never seen a silver pommeled one from Borneo, I strongly incline to Batak instead of Iban/Dusun....

rasdan · 24th April 2011, 08:49 PM

Hello,

Some of these are actually used by Malay rulers. I had attached 2 photos of the weapon in question used to escort 2 Malay Sultan. The first is Sultan Ahmad, Sultan of Pahang, the second one is Sultan Muhammad, Sultan of Negeri Sembilan. Both pictures are taken in the end of 1800's.

I have in my possession a sword like that that is from the Malay Peninsula. It looked the same like their Sumatran counterparts, but there's a bit of intricacy of design of the hilt. The hilt is made with some white metal; probably silver aloy (since it has blackish oxidation), plated with gold. I have seen another one that is in a possesion of somebody in my hometown, a slightly larger/longer sword just like mine, that is said to be a present from Sultan Abu Bakar of Johore.

p/s: Mykeris, if you are reading this, please don't laugh.

erikscollectables · 24th April 2011, 08:58 PM

Very interesting, I did not know about this - these seem to be straight ones as well! Thanks for the info! Regards, Erik

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Originally Posted by rasdan

Hello,

Some of these are actually used by Malay rulers. I had attached 2 photos of the weapon in question used to escort 2 Malay Sultan. The first is Sultan Ahmad, Sultan of Pahang, the second one is Sultan Muhammad, Sultan of Negeri Sembilan. Both pictures are taken in the end of 1800's.

I have in my possession a sword like that that is from the Malay Peninsula. It looked the same like their Sumatran counterparts, but there's a bit of intricacy of design of the hilt. The hilt is made with some white metal; probably silver aloy (since it has blackish oxidation), plated with gold. I have seen another one that is in a possesion of somebody in my hometown, a slightly larger/longer sword just like mine, that is said to be a present from Sultan Abu Bakar of Johore.

p/s: Mykeris, if you are reading this, please don't laugh.

rasdan · 24th April 2011, 09:04 PM

You're welcome Erik. Mine and the other one that I had seen are straight, just like yours. But it seems form the pic, there's curved ones as well..

erikscollectables · 24th April 2011, 09:27 PM

Hello Rasdan,

I noted that too. How strange that the same type of weapon appears in these different places, Sumatra, Borneo and Malasia.

I recently saw a picture from a friend with a ruler of Kutai in Borneo with an Aceh sikin with crowns. I was quite surprised by that!

Erik

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Originally Posted by rasdan

You're welcome Erik. Mine and the other one that I had seen are straight, just like yours. But it seems form the pic, there's curved ones as well..

rasdan · 24th April 2011, 09:31 PM

Yes Erik, which makes collecting and researching more fun.

I'll try to take some pictures of my sword and post it here later.

24th April 2011, 08:49 PM	#3
rasdan Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kuala Lumpur Posts: 369	Hello, Some of these are actually used by Malay rulers. I had attached 2 photos of the weapon in question used to escort 2 Malay Sultan. The first is Sultan Ahmad, Sultan of Pahang, the second one is Sultan Muhammad, Sultan of Negeri Sembilan. Both pictures are taken in the end of 1800's. I have in my possession a sword like that that is from the Malay Peninsula. It looked the same like their Sumatran counterparts, but there's a bit of intricacy of design of the hilt. The hilt is made with some white metal; probably silver aloy (since it has blackish oxidation), plated with gold. I have seen another one that is in a possesion of somebody in my hometown, a slightly larger/longer sword just like mine, that is said to be a present from Sultan Abu Bakar of Johore. p/s: Mykeris, if you are reading this, please don't laugh. Attached Images

24th April 2011, 07:51 PM	#1
Maurice Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,453	Hi Erik, As far as I know the Borneo types used by the seadayak/Iban, or the podangs used by the Dusun in English North Borneo, all have brass handles. If somebody has a Borneo type of podang with wilver pommel, I would love to see an image of it. Best regards, Maurice

24th April 2011, 07:59 PM	#2
Maurice Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,453	Oh and because it is was in the same collection with Batak pieces, and I have never seen a silver pommeled one from Borneo, I strongly incline to Batak instead of Iban/Dusun....

24th April 2011, 09:04 PM	#5
rasdan Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kuala Lumpur Posts: 369	You're welcome Erik. Mine and the other one that I had seen are straight, just like yours. But it seems form the pic, there's curved ones as well..

24th April 2011, 09:31 PM	#7
rasdan Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kuala Lumpur Posts: 369	Yes Erik, which makes collecting and researching more fun. I'll try to take some pictures of my sword and post it here later.