"Pitch-Qabz" from Bukhara - Uzbekistan

Jim McDougall · 21st April 2011, 09:30 PM

I completely agree with Tatyana, and this is truly a beautiful bichaq. What compellingly makes this pouch seem American Indian is that it is rawhide, a most commonly seen material seen in our frontiers and the fringe of course adds to the attractive appearance. In Central Asia, Uzbekistan was in many ways one of the frontiers in much the same sense, and rawhide was certainly well known there as well.

Best regards,
Jim

Dom · 21st April 2011, 11:14 PM

Tatyana and Jim
thank you for your valuable comments

I was really afraid of being ridiculed if
I had announced that this bag was well Uzbek,
as well as the seller had indicated to me

I don't believe obligatorily all sellers ...

thanks again for your assistance

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Dom

Jim McDougall · 22nd April 2011, 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Dom

Tatyana and Jim
thank you for your valuable comments

I was really afraid of being ridiculed if
I had announced that this bag was well Uzbek,
as well as the seller had indicated to me

I don't believe obligatorily all sellers ...

thanks again for your assistance

à +

Dom

Very good idea to check your six with altogether too many sellers!!! But I dont think the term 'ridicule' is in the same universe with you........one of our most valuable assets here

All the best,
Jim

ALEX · 1st May 2011, 07:21 PM

Nice Buharan knife, Dom. and nice to have one completed with silver scabbard, stones and wootz blade. I also like Buharan knifes like this. Here's one with silver/niello handle and wootz blade, and also dated as of 19th C... the pouch is missing:-)

Dom · 2nd May 2011, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ALEX

Nice Buharan knife, Dom.

Thanks Alex, yours it's realy "gorgeous" ... I love it

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Dom

ALEX · 3rd May 2011, 04:55 PM

there are a few ethnographic images here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergey_Prokudin-Gorsky
stunning images considering they were taken over 100 years ago

Dom · 3rd May 2011, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ALEX

This is an original 1910 picture.

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Originally Posted by ALEX

This is an original 1910 picture.

amazing, pity that the sword is hided
the kaftan is a wonder, as well as, the silver belt buckle

thanks to share with us

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Dom

David · 3rd May 2011, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ALEX

stunning images considering they were taken over 100 years ago

Indeed, though Prokudin-Gorsky's pioneering color work was really created for projection and printing them at the time was quite difficult. What we are seeing here is a brilliant reconstruction though digital means. Of course the raw material of the three different monochrome negatives still needed to be of the highest quality to yield such a lovely result as this. Here is a link to the modern process surrounding the presentation of these 100 year old images. Off topic a bit, but i'm a bit of a photo geek.

http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/empire/making.html

1st May 2011, 07:21 PM	#4
ALEX Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 936	Nice Buharan knife, Dom. and nice to have one completed with silver scabbard, stones and wootz blade. I also like Buharan knifes like this. Here's one with silver/niello handle and wootz blade, and also dated as of 19th C... the pouch is missing:-) Attached Images

3rd May 2011, 04:55 PM	#6
ALEX Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 936	there are a few ethnographic images here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergey_Prokudin-Gorsky stunning images considering they were taken over 100 years ago Attached Images Last edited by ALEX; 3rd May 2011 at 05:08 PM.

21st April 2011, 09:30 PM	#1
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,281	I completely agree with Tatyana, and this is truly a beautiful bichaq. What compellingly makes this pouch seem American Indian is that it is rawhide, a most commonly seen material seen in our frontiers and the fringe of course adds to the attractive appearance. In Central Asia, Uzbekistan was in many ways one of the frontiers in much the same sense, and rawhide was certainly well known there as well. Best regards, Jim

21st April 2011, 11:14 PM	#2
Dom Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Paris (FR*) Cairo (EG) Posts: 1,142	Tatyana and Jim thank you for your valuable comments I was really afraid of being ridiculed if I had announced that this bag was well Uzbek, as well as the seller had indicated to me I don't believe obligatorily all sellers ... thanks again for your assistance à + Dom