To wear versus to hide

PenangsangII · 21st April 2011, 12:11 PM

i would opine that keris in our possession have variety of functions. Depending on the functions or purposes of keris to the owner, some keris are to be worn and shown, some should be hidden..... Pusakas category should be kept from views of others..... Similar to kraton pusaka remain in kraton,s gedung pusaka, whilst kraton,s regalia are for shows...

Neo · 21st April 2011, 01:23 PM

Kai: Yes, it is mostly the Chinese accounts. I still wonder how to not break parts like sekar kacang or greneng in combats.

Penangsang 2.0: Any historical reference? I could not find much other than this indirect example ... Remember the legend when Mpu Supa was sent to retrieve a missing Majapahit keris from Madura court? Perhaps we could use this story to reason that perceived powerful pusakas would often become target of theft, so kings would be wise to simply hide them and thereby avoid the rival kingdoms to be aware of their presence?

PenangsangII · 26th April 2011, 04:29 AM

Neo,

Till today, a personal keris (newly made by Empu) or Pusakas are not to be shown to other people, especially your enemy. Those who can read the keris can actually describe the owner, inside out esp the weakness, strength etc. And since this culture had been passed from generations after generations by oral tradition, its hard to pin point the exact origin or era when the tradition began to be practised

21st April 2011, 12:11 PM	#1
PenangsangII Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 401	i would opine that keris in our possession have variety of functions. Depending on the functions or purposes of keris to the owner, some keris are to be worn and shown, some should be hidden..... Pusakas category should be kept from views of others..... Similar to kraton pusaka remain in kraton,s gedung pusaka, whilst kraton,s regalia are for shows...

21st April 2011, 01:23 PM	#2
Neo Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 59	Kai: Yes, it is mostly the Chinese accounts. I still wonder how to not break parts like sekar kacang or greneng in combats. Penangsang 2.0: Any historical reference? I could not find much other than this indirect example ... Remember the legend when Mpu Supa was sent to retrieve a missing Majapahit keris from Madura court? Perhaps we could use this story to reason that perceived powerful pusakas would often become target of theft, so kings would be wise to simply hide them and thereby avoid the rival kingdoms to be aware of their presence?

26th April 2011, 04:29 AM	#3
PenangsangII Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 401	Neo, Till today, a personal keris (newly made by Empu) or Pusakas are not to be shown to other people, especially your enemy. Those who can read the keris can actually describe the owner, inside out esp the weakness, strength etc. And since this culture had been passed from generations after generations by oral tradition, its hard to pin point the exact origin or era when the tradition began to be practised