LONDON CALLING

fernando · 11th July 2005, 07:36 PM

Hi Tim
Let me here present the deeppest condolences from my family and certainly from all my countrymen and women, to the families of those gone.
Keep up,we are with you.

Greyman · 13th July 2005, 01:34 AM

I was in London during the Blitz. Since then the UK has suffered 30 years of Terror bombs by semi religious and political groups. The IRA supported by ex.pats in north Amreica. Arab bombers and now it seems Homegrown {Leeds} English of Pakistani families.

I have to say that this may well ignite all sorts of internal problems, these are no longer the Bader Meinhoff or Red Brigade, we are now dealing with perhaps generations of young men who hate us on two levels......Our society & Our political systems.
For the first time they have the technology to wage sophisticated Guerrela war on a world wide basis.
The Brits can take this, we are used to it. I am humbled by the forgiveness that is shown by victims as well as the defiance........we always visited London and other cities during the Irish problem. Flew to Russia in the midst of the Chechin bombs, cant let these mad people see that the TRUE Brits of whatever Colour,Race,religion or creed will be beaten into a single form of submission and God help the politician who moves in that direction.

Ian · 13th July 2005, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Greyman

The Brits can take this, we are used to it. I am humbled by the forgiveness that is shown by victims as well as the defiance...

Hi Grey:

The resilience and toughness of the British people is indeed legendary when it comes to hardships like this latest one. It is a sad reflection on human behavior that the greatest threats usually come from those within our own society than from outside. We will need to wait for the investigations to sort out who did what.

Forgiveness, rather than revenge, is the sign of a strong and mature culture which has come to terms with the futility of endless cycles of violence, retaliation, more violence, more retaliation, etc. that was the hallmark of the troubles in Ireland.

As an Australian I have always been proud of my (distant) British heritage, and especially under serious stress like this. It would be a great tonic for the British people if England could win back the Ashes from Australia this year, but I have to tell you -- it's not going to happen.

Ian.

Greyman · 13th July 2005, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Ian

Hi Grey:

The resilience and toughness of the British people is indeed legendary when it comes to hardships like this latest one. It is a sad reflection on human behavior that the greatest threats usually come from those within our own society than from outside. We will need to wait for the investigations to sort out who did what.

Forgiveness, rather than revenge, is the sign of a strong and mature culture which has come to terms with the futility of endless cycles of violence, retaliation, more violence, more retaliation, etc. that was the hallmark of the troubles in Ireland.

As an Australian I have always been proud of my (distant) British heritage, and especially under serious stress like this. It would be a great tonic for the British people if England could win back the Ashes from Australia this year, but I have to tell you -- it's not going to happen.

Ian.

Just a final comment......."Ashes". Now when you teach your kids a game,it would not be the right thing to trash them at that game would it?, no of course not,let em win occasionally then beat the crap out of em just to sort out the arrogance>.........

B.I · 13th July 2005, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Greyman

Just a final comment......."Ashes". Now when you teach your kids a game,it would not be the right thing to trash them at that game would it?, no of course not,let em win occasionally then beat the crap out of em just to sort out the arrogance>.........

hey, we are the greatest inventors of sports in the world. just because we 'let' other win now and then (ok, more 'now' than 'then', it doesnt mean we cant if we wanted to. its just the english sense of fair play, taken to extremes. we are just politely letting others win our games for a few decades to lull them into a false sense of security and then......

13th July 2005, 01:34 AM	#2
Greyman Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 15	40 years of it...........they will not win this..... I was in London during the Blitz. Since then the UK has suffered 30 years of Terror bombs by semi religious and political groups. The IRA supported by ex.pats in north Amreica. Arab bombers and now it seems Homegrown {Leeds} English of Pakistani families. I have to say that this may well ignite all sorts of internal problems, these are no longer the Bader Meinhoff or Red Brigade, we are now dealing with perhaps generations of young men who hate us on two levels......Our society & Our political systems. For the first time they have the technology to wage sophisticated Guerrela war on a world wide basis. The Brits can take this, we are used to it. I am humbled by the forgiveness that is shown by victims as well as the defiance........we always visited London and other cities during the Irish problem. Flew to Russia in the midst of the Chechin bombs, cant let these mad people see that the TRUE Brits of whatever Colour,Race,religion or creed will be beaten into a single form of submission and God help the politician who moves in that direction.

11th July 2005, 07:36 PM	#1
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Hi Tim Let me here present the deeppest condolences from my family and certainly from all my countrymen and women, to the families of those gone. Keep up,we are with you.