When dream become reality "Kilij-Pala"

[Zifir]

Hi Dom,
Is it possible to get more clearer pictures for writings, I have read them partially, but in the pictures there are some blurred areas and I have difficulty reading them.

[Dom]

Originally Posted by Zifir

Hi Dom,
Is it possible to get more clearer pictures for writings, I have read them partially,
but in the pictures there are some blurred areas and I have difficulty reading them.

Hi Zifir
very please to read you
are you talking about this pic ... only ?


or about; the part etched (locket) of the scabbard ?

I think to redo all, using the inversion of "positive/negative"
may be ... will have a better reading, I will try

by the way Zifir, your appreciations, and review I do not beg for a compliment ...
but I should like to know your thought after the question lift-up by Alex, concerning the scabbard ...
new one, or ?? .. cheated ? I mean ... Indian copy ?,
and by extension the hilt ... since the decor is similar
did you already saw some scabbard with locket partly etched ??

in every way I am "crazy" from my "Pala"
whatever what I can learn about it
but I like to know the true ... to don't die ... stupid
with "our" best souvenir, my Friend

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Dom

[A.alnakkas]

I think its very similar to syrian work. i wouldnt be too bothered, Dom its very good and its not bad if blades are refurbished properly

[ALEX]

Originally Posted by A.alnakkas

I think its very similar to syrian work. i wouldnt be too bothered, Dom its very good and its not bad if blades are refurbished properly

Agree on all points. The work indeed resembles Syrian. The flowers with dot-like petals, rolling bands and smaller dots in the background is very Syrian, as on attached example of late last Century Syrian work. and another pix is of 19th C work just for comparison.
It is done properly, Dom. and the Pala looks great overall. I also agree that all parts are matching. The leather and stitching are old(er). As in any proper restoration, the fittings would be made to fit the profile. Great sword indeed!

[Zifir]

Hi Dom,

Ta ezelden kadim olmuş
Otuz birin yoldaşım,
Adüvvden intikam almak için
Yapılmıştır bu pala.

My comrade (not in modern sense of course , yoldaş means the one who follows the same path), our 31st (meaning 31st Bölük - regiment) has been the oldest from time immemorial,
This pala was made to take revenge from enemy.

I think this rhyme is a clear sign showing that you own a janissary pala Dom

[Zifir]

Adavetle adüvv olmuş
Var ise gelsin meydana
İzn(?)-i Mevla ile Adüvvü
Helak eyler bu pala

If there is anyone who becomes enemy with enmity
Let him come to battle field
With the permission of God, this pala destroys him

Dom sorry for this very dry translation, I think it's time to develop some literary skills

[Dom]

Originally Posted by Zifir

Dom sorry for this very dry translation

Hi Zifir
sorry for what?
I do not think that in those days, the Janissaries were people with emotional?
many of them, if not virtually all were castrated at an early age,
their destiny was to be the most valiant soldiers, and efficient as possible
all this, leaves little room for sentimentality or affectation
I imagine most of these guys, were tough and rough,
but with an education that gave them a sense of aesthetics and beauty

thanks again for every things, my Friend

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Dom

[Dom]

Originally Posted by Zifir

I think this rhyme is a clear sign showing that you own a janissary pala Dom

thank you very much for the efforts, Zifir
it's nice to be able to determine what kind of person could be the owner of this "Pala"
now, I know, thanks again

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Dom

[Dom]

Originally Posted by Zifir

Is it possible to get more clearer pictures for writings ...snip... I have difficulty reading them.

Originally Posted by Dom

I think to redo all, using the inversion of "positive/negative"
may be ... will have a better reading, I will try

Good Day ZifirI
I tried the color inversion, but no interresting result
in a first time, I presente you, after have acted on color contrast, tell me ??

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Dom