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Old 3rd April 2011, 11:54 PM   #1
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Good question Fernando, that standed wheel is definitely the focal point of this work.
Michael, would this work plausibly have been done by Hans Burgkmair (1473-1531), one of Maximilian I's favored artists? It seems he did a good number of varied types of art featuring religious scenes and portraits of citizens in Augsburg.
I am wondering about the possible allegorical content of this illustration, and the unusual 'action' elements. Also, would the predominant 'wheel' shown on the back of the individual in foreground possibly signify the 'Catherine Wheel'?
This was a symbolic for St. Catherine of Alexandria martyred in the 4th century and signifying the 'breaking wheel', with which the Romans tried to execute her but it broke rather than breaking her. Regardless, she was then executed by sword. In reading through heraldic explanations it is suggested that the wheel signifies the faithful who will endure great trials for Christianity.

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Old 4th April 2011, 05:19 PM   #2
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Hi Jim and 'Nando,

Of course most of these illustrations are Hans Burgkmair's work.

As to the standed wheel which Maximilian's companion is also shown to wear on the front of his coat in another of Burgkmair's engravings in the Theuerdank (attached), I cannot see any relation between this spinning wheel and St. Chatherine's wheel of torture. I would suggest the spinning wheel (Spinnrad) has to do with either the guy's profession or even his name - just like the symbols painted on shields and pavises.

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Old 4th April 2011, 05:49 PM   #3
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Hi Jim and 'Nando,

Of course most of these illustrations are Hans Burgkmair's work.

As to the standed wheel which Maximilian's companion is also shown to wear on the front of his coat in another of Burgkmair's engravings in the Theuerdank (attached), I cannot see any relation between this spinning wheel and St. Chatherine's wheel of torture. I would suggest the spinning wheel (Spinnrad) has to do with either the guy's profession or even his name - just like the symbols painted on shields and pavises.

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Michl

Thanks very much Michael, and of course it does make perfect sense that the wheel is likely a spinning wheel as it is mounted on a stand. I was thinking of the Catherine wheel in considering possible allegorical connections. Since it does seem that Burgkmair focused a good deal on illustrating local citizens of Augsburg, perhaps this person or family was influential enough for special attention.

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Exactly, Jim,

We're on the same page!

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