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			Fine surprise or "mirage" ... ? 
		
		
		
			to clean my helmet, I use time to time, products from "Renaissance", and "000" I never got more attention than that, about about the steel bowl, but yesterday ...   I wasn't beleiving my eyes, then, I took those pics which should be your comment ? or even your mockery about the capacities of my optician ...   - Johar or not ... that is the question ? about the helmet - it's a real Persian, end of 18th beginning of 19th century, absolutely "Qajar", come from a famous French collection, dispersed after estate - I have difficulty to increase the "Johar" contrast, I tried with lime juice, even by cutting a lime with blade (as far it's knife is concerning) I didn't noticed something conclusive ... so ?? à + Dom  | 
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			Don't tease us, Dom--photos of the entire helmet, please!   
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	![]() For what it's worth, I do not think that is wootz (johar). Maybe folded steel, but that pattern looks so uniform I lean towards an etching.  
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 but ... no teasing from me; I already present you my helmet, it's my "avatar" remember   http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...Persian+helmet à + Dom  | 
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