sikh battle helmet

Atlantia · 29th March 2011, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by A Senefelder

I stand corrected, in my intial look at the pics I thought I spied rivets, but Atlantias comment made me look again and he is absolutely correct the rings are butted. That would put the helmet in the later 19th century perhaps. Thast what I get for not wearing my glasses.

Sorry mate, early 21st century IMHO.

A Senefelder · 29th March 2011, 02:44 AM

Interesting, most of the new market Indian reproduction armour i've seen around is suffering from the same thing that much newly made European armour is, its to perfect, to symetrical, to even and lacks most of the handmade hallmarks of the originals ( in fact the standards of fine period armour would be returned as unacceptible if incorperated into newly made reproductions, in our mass produced world the hand made quality of original harness with all its asymetries ect. is unacceptible for the modern consumer ). Theres a fair amount of asymetry and uneveness to the decorative motif. Perhaps they're discovering thier mistake.

Atlantia · 29th March 2011, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by A Senefelder

Interesting, most of the new market Indian reproduction armour i've seen around is suffering from the same thing that much newly made European armour is, its to perfect, to symetrical, to even and lacks most of the handmade hallmarks of the originals ( in fact the standards of fine period armour would be returned as unacceptible if incorperated into newly made reproductions, in our mass produced world the hand made quality of original harness with all its asymetries ect. is unacceptible for the modern consumer ). Theres a fair amount of asymetry and uneveness to the decorative motif. Perhaps they're discovering thier mistake.

I think you've hit upon something there. It's recently (last 18 months) that I've seen this type of simple chiseled steel decoration replacing the intricate koftgari that had become so...... 'familiar'.

Redeye,
Can you post pictures of the inside of the helmet please?

A Senefelder · 29th March 2011, 03:37 PM

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replacing the intricate koftgari that had become so...... 'familiar'.

I've seen a bunch of that and even reworked a few pieces for folks in the last few years ( these owners were aware it was newely made ).

redeye · 2nd August 2011, 02:09 PM

HI
the inside has been re-trimmed recently, Thanks for all the info

redeye · 2nd August 2011, 02:16 PM

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/images/attach/jpg.gif

The inside was redone recently i was told ,

redeye · 2nd August 2011, 02:17 PM

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/attach...id=74696&stc=1

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redeye Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 7	http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/images/attach/jpg.gif The inside was redone recently i was told , Attached Images

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29th March 2011, 02:44 AM	#2
A Senefelder Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 214	Interesting, most of the new market Indian reproduction armour i've seen around is suffering from the same thing that much newly made European armour is, its to perfect, to symetrical, to even and lacks most of the handmade hallmarks of the originals ( in fact the standards of fine period armour would be returned as unacceptible if incorperated into newly made reproductions, in our mass produced world the hand made quality of original harness with all its asymetries ect. is unacceptible for the modern consumer ). Theres a fair amount of asymetry and uneveness to the decorative motif. Perhaps they're discovering thier mistake.