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Old 27th March 2011, 11:08 AM   #1
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Danny, the spear blade is not Javanese.

The beautiful shaft and sopal are unlike any old Javanese pieces that I have seen.
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Old 27th March 2011, 11:12 AM   #2
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@ mr Maisey , Thanks for answering.


I did some search last night in the database of the RMV and it,s diffecult to see on the photo,s but i have the feeling i could be atjeh ... but stil not sure.
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Old 27th March 2011, 12:05 PM   #3
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Danny,

Yes it loooks Atjeh or at least Sumatra.
I would not wrangan them.

I will post some pictures of Atjeh spears I have later this week.
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Old 27th March 2011, 01:58 PM   #4
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@ mr Maisey , Thanks for answering.


I did some search last night in the database of the RMV and it,s diffecult to see on the photo,s but i have the feeling i could be atjeh ... but stil not sure.
Danny, I too say Sumatra.
They both share the form of the silvered one in the Kelling Hall spears I have retained and in general, the spear heads are of Sumatran/Aceh form.

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Danny,

Yes it loooks Atjeh or at least Sumatra.
I would not wrangan them.

I will post some pictures of Atjeh spears I have later this week.
Agreed, I would not Wrangan them.

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Old 27th March 2011, 02:15 PM   #5
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Hi Danny,

like I write by the other lance, very very nice. Another vote for not warangan but maybe an mild etch with vinegar.

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Old 27th March 2011, 11:20 PM   #6
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Everybody rhanks for the great joining in the discusion !!

Definitly no warangan for the spears , maybe a etch but maybe i just leave them like this .
For the compare i did ''steal'' a photo from the spears from kelling hal , hope this won,t be a problem.
It looks like they are probaly from atjeh , if this is so...i have a problem..i don,t have atjeh pieces, so have to find some then

@ Willem
I look forward to youre photo,s

Here the photo,s tpo compare the spear head , only the ferrules are still different
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Old 28th March 2011, 01:16 AM   #7
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Steal is such an ugly word Danny!

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Old 31st March 2011, 12:26 AM   #8
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I did some search last night in the database of the RMV and it,s diffecult to see on the photo,s but i have the feeling i could be atjeh ... but stil not sure.
Hello Danny,
I also checked the RMV.
Difficult to say.
These might be Atjeh, but just the same it might be any other part of Sumatra. The ferrule is not specifically Atjeh, nor is the blade.
Blades like this one are also found on karo batak "lembing raja"
The octagonal wood might be the best indication pointing towards Atjeh at this moment

Still nice lances in very nice condition
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