Long Barung

RobT · 4th July 2005, 11:37 PM

Battara,
Could you tell me what "sipput" means and if my long barong fits in that category? The blade is 22 1/16" with a false back edge of 15 1/8". The blade is not very robust, being only 2 3/8" at its deepest point with a 3/16" spine at the hilt. The blade is also very springy so I assume it's made of spring steel like a machete. It appears that the sheath had mop inlays. It is currently being held together with paper wrapping and twist ties because three of the four wood pins that held the two halves together are missing. There is an an inletted design filled with what appears to be tar (gal gal?) at the top of the scabbard. There is also a series of round holes at the top and chape that appear to be filled with the same material. The hilt is rather sad. It looks like it was made from an old wooden walking stick handle that was jammed into a ferrule made of some sort of brass machine part. Does anyone know where I can get a modern reproduction barong hilt for a modest cost?
Sincerely,
RobT

themorningstar · 5th July 2005, 05:40 AM

its not a "barung" but its related.... and that's all i will comment..

Battara · 6th July 2005, 11:15 PM

As far as what "sipput" means.....I don't know nor do I know the etomology of that word (at present). However Ibeam told me he got the term from Cecil Qirino at Kris Cutlery. I do know that the barong sipput I sold Ibeam also had a springy blade, as thin, narrow, and long. I personally favor the earlier versions of the barong, which tend to be shorter, wider, and more likely to be laminated steel.

RobT, if your example is a barong sipput, it would fit the description above and my personal observation is that they are a later evolution of the barong, going well into the 20th century.

4th July 2005, 11:37 PM	#1
RobT Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 536	My long barong Battara, Could you tell me what "sipput" means and if my long barong fits in that category? The blade is 22 1/16" with a false back edge of 15 1/8". The blade is not very robust, being only 2 3/8" at its deepest point with a 3/16" spine at the hilt. The blade is also very springy so I assume it's made of spring steel like a machete. It appears that the sheath had mop inlays. It is currently being held together with paper wrapping and twist ties because three of the four wood pins that held the two halves together are missing. There is an an inletted design filled with what appears to be tar (gal gal?) at the top of the scabbard. There is also a series of round holes at the top and chape that appear to be filled with the same material. The hilt is rather sad. It looks like it was made from an old wooden walking stick handle that was jammed into a ferrule made of some sort of brass machine part. Does anyone know where I can get a modern reproduction barong hilt for a modest cost? Sincerely, RobT Attached Images

5th July 2005, 05:40 AM	#2
themorningstar Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 55	its not a "barung" but its related.... and that's all i will comment..

6th July 2005, 11:15 PM	#3
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	As far as what "sipput" means.....I don't know nor do I know the etomology of that word (at present). However Ibeam told me he got the term from Cecil Qirino at Kris Cutlery. I do know that the barong sipput I sold Ibeam also had a springy blade, as thin, narrow, and long. I personally favor the earlier versions of the barong, which tend to be shorter, wider, and more likely to be laminated steel. RobT, if your example is a barong sipput, it would fit the description above and my personal observation is that they are a later evolution of the barong, going well into the 20th century.