Den Pasar Museum

Gavin Nugent · 7th March 2011, 04:11 AM

Hi Alan,

I had two cabinets open for quite a while at the end of 2010.
I may not have been seen or it may have been that as I had my partner, children and a Balinese friend with me that no one came rushing in or I just looked plain honest and friendly with only an enquiring mind and a camera working overtime.
A lot were sealed tight with no access though, others I thought it would be too bold to do so further as I did want to see the whole museum without ticking of officials.

It seems we had the same approach with photography too. I climbed one of those steep stair cases and took a few ariel shots...nice and cool in the breeze too.

I agree you covered the limited amount of weapons very well.
One however that sticks in my mind was in the theatre abode, the theatric shield with the long central spike, I kind of wondered if there was historical aspects of real use based around its manufacture?

It is a shame there is nothing noted of the 'Lurus' keris it is a stunner and although I didn't get close enough, it appeared one aspect was hollowed/pierced. great form, great size, great desire to handle one.
The other above had 15luks from memory, something else I have never seen before on a Bali Keris.

You are a lucky man to own 2 'cinquadea' style Keris, they are indeed gorgeous.

Gav

A. G. Maisey · 7th March 2011, 05:08 AM

This the two keris you mean?

I think the straight one is probably Bali/Lombok. Looks like the gandhik has been pierced, and they do unusual stuff like on Lombok keris fairly often.

The other waved one I don't find unusual. Nice keris, but not unusual.

Yes, the multi-fullered keris are pretty nice, but they didn't come cheap. I got the first one in Australia years ago at a shop in the Rocks, the other one came as part of a deal. I saw one in Celuk a couple years back too, and would have bought it, but the seller was just being ridiculous with his price, so I let him keep it since he apparently liked it so much.

Gavin Nugent · 7th March 2011, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

This the two keris you mean?

I think the straight one is probably Bali/Lombok. Looks like the gandhik has been pierced, and they do unusual stuff like on Lombok keris fairly often.

The other waved one I don't find unusual. Nice keris, but not unusual.

That's them Alan.

Every time I see this Keris Lurus I think of the Ulan Danu for some reason, perhaps the pergoda like gandhik.

The other luk Keris with it, how common is 15 luks on Bali keris, I always thought 11 was the limit in this region??

Thanks

Gav

A. G. Maisey · 7th March 2011, 07:07 AM

Yeah, I can see that.

15 luk is not unusual for a Bali keris.

Even a lot more luk is not unusual.

It is a little out of the ordinary in Jawa, where more than 13 is an indication that the keris was made for somebody with an unusual character, somebody like, say, an artist, dancer, healer. Not Mister Subiasa.

7th March 2011, 04:11 AM	#1
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	Hi Alan, I had two cabinets open for quite a while at the end of 2010. I may not have been seen or it may have been that as I had my partner, children and a Balinese friend with me that no one came rushing in or I just looked plain honest and friendly with only an enquiring mind and a camera working overtime. A lot were sealed tight with no access though, others I thought it would be too bold to do so further as I did want to see the whole museum without ticking of officials. It seems we had the same approach with photography too. I climbed one of those steep stair cases and took a few ariel shots...nice and cool in the breeze too. I agree you covered the limited amount of weapons very well. One however that sticks in my mind was in the theatre abode, the theatric shield with the long central spike, I kind of wondered if there was historical aspects of real use based around its manufacture? It is a shame there is nothing noted of the 'Lurus' keris it is a stunner and although I didn't get close enough, it appeared one aspect was hollowed/pierced. great form, great size, great desire to handle one. The other above had 15luks from memory, something else I have never seen before on a Bali Keris. You are a lucky man to own 2 'cinquadea' style Keris, they are indeed gorgeous. Gav Last edited by freebooter; 7th March 2011 at 04:30 AM.

7th March 2011, 05:08 AM	#2
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,991	This the two keris you mean? I think the straight one is probably Bali/Lombok. Looks like the gandhik has been pierced, and they do unusual stuff like on Lombok keris fairly often. The other waved one I don't find unusual. Nice keris, but not unusual. Yes, the multi-fullered keris are pretty nice, but they didn't come cheap. I got the first one in Australia years ago at a shop in the Rocks, the other one came as part of a deal. I saw one in Celuk a couple years back too, and would have bought it, but the seller was just being ridiculous with his price, so I let him keep it since he apparently liked it so much. Attached Images

7th March 2011, 07:07 AM	#4
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,991	Yeah, I can see that. 15 luk is not unusual for a Bali keris. Even a lot more luk is not unusual. It is a little out of the ordinary in Jawa, where more than 13 is an indication that the keris was made for somebody with an unusual character, somebody like, say, an artist, dancer, healer. Not Mister Subiasa.