Den Pasar Museum

A. G. Maisey · 6th March 2011, 11:15 PM

Hopefully David, but I have my doubts.

Going back a few years we had a wonderful museum here in Sydney.

It was the Museum of Applied Arts and Sciences. It was housed in a beautiful old Victorian building, and it had some absolutely wonderful displays.

It was typically 19th century, and visit there took you back into the 19th century. It was exactly what a museum of this type should be.

Our bureaucrats did not see this museum in quite the same way as did the people who regularly used it.

The Museum of Applied Arts and Sciences was closed and in its place we got the Power House Museum, which is a modern museum that functions as a dumbed down child minding facility.Since its opening I have heard a stream of negative comments about it from all classes of people and for a wide range of reasons.

But it does entertain children very well.

I am more than a little afraid that a similar fate to that which befell the old Museum of Applied Arts and Sciences will befall the Den Pasar Museum.

I really do hope I'm wrong.

Gavin Nugent · 7th March 2011, 03:20 AM

Thank you for sharing the link Alan.

It would be a shame to see this establishment moved to another location, it is a beautiful setting with a lot of history in the immeadiate surroundings and if you have a historically versed companion who can point out various locations and explain what happened and when etc it is all that much more interesting.

Changed happened to the old QLD musuem in Brisbane, I remember as a child the smell of old displays and every time I see the 'Mummy' on TV and the adventurer's estate I remember the old QLD museum. I loved the place!
Whilst modern aspects and interaction for the kids of today is important, I think the old world style leaves more of an imprint in anyone.
Now it is all modern and sitting at South Bank Brisbane and all the really good old stuff is gone to the back rooms and weapons, HA!!! All gone in the last two years too.
Of course the Social History Curator is very helpful with supplying spreadsheets and appointments can be had to view any item you wish but it just isn't the same...another wonderful historical aspect of old world museums gone.....

I too have many images images of the complete collection on display available if further examples are required by anyone.

I have always wanted to know more about the large 'Lurus' labeled Keris but have never asked thus far so I ask Alan, if appropriate in this thread, can you explain it's past? Any information on this piece would be greatly appreciated if shared.
I think there are a good many threads that could be started on many of the aspects seen in the Keris in Den Pasar such as the Keris holders of the 19th centruy that many disgard as a non traditional items.
Another of interest is the Keris that reminds me of the Italian Cinquedea on a Keris scale, lovely form, lovely fullers.

Gav

Rick · 7th March 2011, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by freebooter

I have always wanted to know more about the large 'Lurus' labeled Keris but have never asked thus far so I ask Alan, if appropriate in this thread, can you explain it's past? Any information on this piece would be greatly appreciated if shared.
I think there are a good many threads that could be started on many of the aspects seen in the Keris in Den Pasar such as the Keris holders of the 19th centruy that many disgard as a non traditional items.
Another of interest is the Keris that reminds me of the Italian Cinquedea on a Keris scale, lovely form, lovely fullers.

Gav

Hi Gav,
If we're talking about the same 'Lurus' ; I think it's a keris pedang .. In one of Alan's photos I think I can see where the upper edge seems to show the transition point from dull to sharp .

Maybe it's an optical delusion .

Gavin Nugent · 7th March 2011, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

Hi Gav,
If we're talking about the same 'Lurus' ; I think it's a keris pedang .. In one of Alan's photos I think I can see where the upper edge seems to show the transition point from dull to sharp .

Maybe it's an optical delusion .

Optical I think Rick. The top edge has a beveled edge all the way to the tip. Here is another close up.

Gav

Rick · 7th March 2011, 11:03 PM

Yeh, you're right Gav .
That is the only picture that makes the blade look a bit humpy .

Rick

7th March 2011, 03:20 AM	#2
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	Thank you for sharing the link Alan. It would be a shame to see this establishment moved to another location, it is a beautiful setting with a lot of history in the immeadiate surroundings and if you have a historically versed companion who can point out various locations and explain what happened and when etc it is all that much more interesting. Changed happened to the old QLD musuem in Brisbane, I remember as a child the smell of old displays and every time I see the 'Mummy' on TV and the adventurer's estate I remember the old QLD museum. I loved the place! Whilst modern aspects and interaction for the kids of today is important, I think the old world style leaves more of an imprint in anyone. Now it is all modern and sitting at South Bank Brisbane and all the really good old stuff is gone to the back rooms and weapons, HA!!! All gone in the last two years too. Of course the Social History Curator is very helpful with supplying spreadsheets and appointments can be had to view any item you wish but it just isn't the same...another wonderful historical aspect of old world museums gone..... I too have many images images of the complete collection on display available if further examples are required by anyone. I have always wanted to know more about the large 'Lurus' labeled Keris but have never asked thus far so I ask Alan, if appropriate in this thread, can you explain it's past? Any information on this piece would be greatly appreciated if shared. I think there are a good many threads that could be started on many of the aspects seen in the Keris in Den Pasar such as the Keris holders of the 19th centruy that many disgard as a non traditional items. Another of interest is the Keris that reminds me of the Italian Cinquedea on a Keris scale, lovely form, lovely fullers. Gav Last edited by freebooter; 7th March 2011 at 03:57 AM.

6th March 2011, 11:15 PM	#1
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,991	Hopefully David, but I have my doubts. Going back a few years we had a wonderful museum here in Sydney. It was the Museum of Applied Arts and Sciences. It was housed in a beautiful old Victorian building, and it had some absolutely wonderful displays. It was typically 19th century, and visit there took you back into the 19th century. It was exactly what a museum of this type should be. Our bureaucrats did not see this museum in quite the same way as did the people who regularly used it. The Museum of Applied Arts and Sciences was closed and in its place we got the Power House Museum, which is a modern museum that functions as a dumbed down child minding facility.Since its opening I have heard a stream of negative comments about it from all classes of people and for a wide range of reasons. But it does entertain children very well. I am more than a little afraid that a similar fate to that which befell the old Museum of Applied Arts and Sciences will befall the Den Pasar Museum. I really do hope I'm wrong.

7th March 2011, 11:03 PM	#5
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,336	Yeh, you're right Gav . That is the only picture that makes the blade look a bit humpy . Rick