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Old 2nd March 2011, 10:17 PM   #1
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thanks, ron! since i'm not that familiar with the finer points of analyzing a kris, i have 'moar' queries. based on the rendition of the 'jaw', can we also say that the kris indeed exhibits maranaw traits? attached is a guide which perhaps you yourself prepared for robert fulton? thanks again, bro
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Old 2nd March 2011, 10:38 PM   #2
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What a beautiful kris! Love the baca-baca. Thank you very much for sharing.

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Old 3rd March 2011, 01:33 AM   #3
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SCORE!!!!
Really like that clamp design, very unusual, I 've never seen one like it.
Congrat-tuli-on, bay....
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Old 3rd March 2011, 01:36 PM   #4
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you can still see the "jutting jaw"on this one, albeit not as pronounced. i notice this on the much later ones.

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lagi, bay! just trying to catch up with you, holmes, lol...
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Lorenz - nice post of these back to back and very accurate.

The only caveate is that when it comes to later pieces like Ron's, then things get fuzzier. Therefore one must go by other traits as well.
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Old 4th March 2011, 02:15 AM   #6
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Jose, thanks for the additional tips!
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Old 6th March 2011, 02:00 PM   #7
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thanks, ron! since i'm not that familiar with the finer points of analyzing a kris, i have 'moar' queries. based on the rendition of the 'jaw', can we also say that the kris indeed exhibits maranaw traits? attached is a guide which perhaps you yourself prepared for robert fulton? thanks again, bro

Thank you for posting this picture, I think it is very helpful not only for me!

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Old 6th March 2011, 02:02 PM   #8
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Thank you for posting this picture, I think it is very helpful not only for me!

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Detlef, am happy to be of help somehow. Thanks, too and regards!
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Old 10th May 2011, 02:48 AM   #9
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Here's a similar piece, and it's a huge kris (another one is shown for comparison). The naga-themed kris has the following dimensions -- overall length: 28.9" and blade lt.: 24.6".

What's unusual about this naga kris is the guard is not separate from the blade. The only reason I can think of is that perhaps the maker did not want to have the separation line interfering with the deeply curving body of the naga near the hilt. Or can it be the other way around? That is, since the guard and the blade are integrated, then the naga can be placed as close as possible to the hilt.

In any case, in general what would be the latest thoughts of forumites on krises where the the guard and blades are not separate? Thanks in advance!
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Old 10th May 2011, 02:50 AM   #10
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Some more pics ...
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Old 10th May 2011, 02:51 AM   #11
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Here's a pic of the sword before it was cleaned and etched ...
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Old 10th May 2011, 03:22 AM   #12
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Great job Lorenz! Nice piece......although unfortunately missing the middle silver bands.

Were these used as parade swords or presentation pieces?
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