Visayan oddity

zelbone · 2nd July 2005, 08:20 PM

Spunger, if you want to blacken the blade i'd suggest a deep etch, but you won't get it to look like the morningstars blades. It is, I guess you could call it, by design. That's straight from the forge without polishing. My mom's binangon above is the same way. Only the flat side and the bevel are polished.

And yes, those kris dagas are Visayan. If you notice their scabbards they're of Visayan design and are covered with horn scales. The larger one has a few intact still, but the smaller one has lost the scales long ago. Both are of blind tang construction. Enclosed is another pic of the two dagas with a larger Visayan kris with a deity tenegre pueo. The kris sword and either one of these dagas would make a unique and formidable espada y daga combination.

Spunjer · 3rd July 2005, 12:52 PM

nice, zel, nice. wasn't aware about the existence of kris blades being relatively prevalent in visayas. thanks...

Battara · 3rd July 2005, 07:23 PM

I'm with Spunger. I had wondered if there were some influence of wavy forms, but never new about them from the Visayas. I am aware (and have) a wavy bladed Katipunan government Ilokano piece (that Spunger has seen). Yet Ilocos del Norte is way up in the north of the PI. Do you think the wavy bladed form was once widespread, or was it Moro influenced?

2nd July 2005, 08:20 PM	#1
zelbone Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: VISAYAS and MINDANAO Posts: 169	Spunger, if you want to blacken the blade i'd suggest a deep etch, but you won't get it to look like the morningstars blades. It is, I guess you could call it, by design. That's straight from the forge without polishing. My mom's binangon above is the same way. Only the flat side and the bevel are polished. And yes, those kris dagas are Visayan. If you notice their scabbards they're of Visayan design and are covered with horn scales. The larger one has a few intact still, but the smaller one has lost the scales long ago. Both are of blind tang construction. Enclosed is another pic of the two dagas with a larger Visayan kris with a deity tenegre pueo. The kris sword and either one of these dagas would make a unique and formidable espada y daga combination. Attached Images

3rd July 2005, 12:52 PM	#2
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	nice, zel, nice. wasn't aware about the existence of kris blades being relatively prevalent in visayas. thanks...

3rd July 2005, 07:23 PM	#3
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,280	I'm with Spunger. I had wondered if there were some influence of wavy forms, but never new about them from the Visayas. I am aware (and have) a wavy bladed Katipunan government Ilokano piece (that Spunger has seen). Yet Ilocos del Norte is way up in the north of the PI. Do you think the wavy bladed form was once widespread, or was it Moro influenced?