Pandai Saras Luk 9

Gustav · 10th February 2011, 04:16 PM

Your sampir is similar indeed, yet more classical, better shape. Mine seems to be "compressed" vertically, looks, like there was some lack of material at the bottom on right side. However the protruding back of gonjo balances it out, it looks after a while like intention.

What I like on mine are the two tips of sampir, really like "daun", turned a little bit more inwards.

Gustav · 11th February 2011, 11:48 PM

The wood of sampir looks softer, more large-pored then Kemuning. Yet of course I could be wrong. I wish, it would be Kemuning.

Also a picture of (desired) buntut.

Jean · 12th February 2011, 10:20 AM

Gustav,
The "Bugis cup" looks too wide for the hilt base, is it original and what should be the correct type of pendokok for this hilt?
Best regards

Gustav · 12th February 2011, 11:01 AM

Jean, it's fewer then 1 and half mm to wide. It came with this pendokok, I suppose it would be possible to regard this form as one of correct possible pendokok forms for such keris.

On hilt there are no visible traces from another pendokok.

Best regards

David · 12th February 2011, 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gustav

Jean, it's fewer then 1 and half mm to wide. It came with this pendokok, I suppose it would be possible to regard this form as one of correct possible pendokok forms for such keris.

On hilt there are no visible traces from another pendokok.

Best regards

Gustav, i do not believe that this is the appropriate pendokok form for a Pattani keris. I am sure that Shahrial or Kai Wee would have some good examples to show you.

Gustav · 13th February 2011, 12:05 AM

David, please take a look at this website, its Dave Henkel's:

http://kerisarchipelago.150m.com/pattani&singora.htm

You will found some keris with similar bugis style pendokok.

Also this one: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...=keris+pattani

And this: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...hlight=pattani

David · 13th February 2011, 02:46 AM

Perhaps it's acceptable then Gustav. I'm certainly no expert on Pattani keris.

Still a bit too large though...

Sajen · 12th February 2011, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gustav

The wood of sampir looks softer, more large-pored then Kemuning. Yet of course I could be wrong. I wish, it would be Kemuning.

Also a picture of (desired) buntut.

Hello Gustav,

congrats to this nice find. The sampir look to my eyes as beeing from kemuning. (So far I am able to see it by pictures. I have tried to learn the differences between kemuning and trembalo.)
The buntut you show in your picture look more buginese, I think a buntut like one from the both keris sheaths Kai Wee show in his link would look better for your keris.

Regards,

Detlef

Gustav · 12th February 2011, 09:25 PM

Hello Detlef,

thank you. About buntut you are wright.

Regards

10th February 2011, 04:16 PM	#1
Gustav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,295	Your sampir is similar indeed, yet more classical, better shape. Mine seems to be "compressed" vertically, looks, like there was some lack of material at the bottom on right side. However the protruding back of gonjo balances it out, it looks after a while like intention. What I like on mine are the two tips of sampir, really like "daun", turned a little bit more inwards. Last edited by Gustav; 11th February 2011 at 08:41 AM.

11th February 2011, 11:48 PM	#2
Gustav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,295	The wood of sampir looks softer, more large-pored then Kemuning. Yet of course I could be wrong. I wish, it would be Kemuning. Also a picture of (desired) buntut. Attached Images

13th February 2011, 12:05 AM	#6
Gustav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,295	David, please take a look at this website, its Dave Henkel's: http://kerisarchipelago.150m.com/pattani&singora.htm You will found some keris with similar bugis style pendokok. Also this one: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...=keris+pattani And this: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...hlight=pattani Last edited by Gustav; 13th February 2011 at 12:23 AM.

12th February 2011, 10:20 AM	#3
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	Gustav, The "Bugis cup" looks too wide for the hilt base, is it original and what should be the correct type of pendokok for this hilt? Best regards

12th February 2011, 11:01 AM	#4
Gustav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,295	Jean, it's fewer then 1 and half mm to wide. It came with this pendokok, I suppose it would be possible to regard this form as one of correct possible pendokok forms for such keris. On hilt there are no visible traces from another pendokok. Best regards

13th February 2011, 02:46 AM	#7
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,237	Perhaps it's acceptable then Gustav. I'm certainly no expert on Pattani keris. Still a bit too large though...

12th February 2011, 09:25 PM	#9
Gustav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,295	Hello Detlef, thank you. About buntut you are wright. Regards