Can someone help me identifying 2 Jezail rifles

ikzelf · 28th January 2011, 05:53 PM

Yes, I was thinking the same.
The man I bought them from had bought them in marakech.
But he was very old, and I had problems with understanding him.
He was from Belgium, and I am from The Netherlands,and He was speaking Dutch, but in a strange way.

In the post, My first Jezail, I put some foto's, from when I just bought the guns.
I already cleaned the locks, and gave the silver a little rubb.
And now they look real fine.

It pleases me to know, that you like them, I was also attracted to them from the moment I saw them.

Grz,

John.

kahnjar1 · 28th January 2011, 08:42 PM

Hello John,
A truely nice pair of guns.

I have searched thru several books I have on the subject, and can find nothing like the stock shape of these. Are there any marks on the barrels anywhere? Might give a pointer to the origin.
Regards Stuart

TVV · 28th January 2011, 10:49 PM

The style of the barrel bands and the extensive use of bone makes me think this was North African work.

Regards,
Teodor

Battara · 29th January 2011, 04:37 AM

I agree with TVV, looking more like North African work.

What an amazing pair - never seen anything like these before - beautiful!

kahnjar1 · 29th January 2011, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Battara

I agree with TVV, looking more like North African work.

What an amazing pair - never seen anything like these before - beautiful!

I also think North African, BUT..........nothing like any stock style typical of the area........

Battara · 30th January 2011, 05:28 AM

Oh I agree with you Khanjar1. At first I would have thought Moroccan, but the stock style doesn't typically fit.......

kahnjar1 · 30th January 2011, 07:29 AM

Unfortunately the "marks" are not clear enough to identify, but that slot is a dovetail for an iron sight of some sort. The hole??? could be a crude way to deactivate the barrel

. IF you have any ideas of firing these, get that hole checked out first!!
Stuart

ikzelf · 29th January 2011, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by kahnjar1

Hello John,
A truely nice pair of guns.

I have searched thru several books I have on the subject, and can find nothing like the stock shape of these. Are there any marks on the barrels anywhere? Might give a pointer to the origin.
Regards Stuart

I agree, I don't have much books on Guns like these, and the books I have
don't mention anything like these.
And like I said the stocks puzzele me.
To answer your question about the marks, I could not find one.
And the locks I can't take them or the barrels out.
The only markings on the barrels, I took some pictures of them, and will post them.

Greetz,
John.

28th January 2011, 05:53 PM	#1
ikzelf Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 5	Yes, I was thinking the same. The man I bought them from had bought them in marakech. But he was very old, and I had problems with understanding him. He was from Belgium, and I am from The Netherlands,and He was speaking Dutch, but in a strange way. In the post, My first Jezail, I put some foto's, from when I just bought the guns. I already cleaned the locks, and gave the silver a little rubb. And now they look real fine. It pleases me to know, that you like them, I was also attracted to them from the moment I saw them. Grz, John.

28th January 2011, 08:42 PM	#2
kahnjar1 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND Posts: 2,810	Hello John, A truely nice pair of guns. I have searched thru several books I have on the subject, and can find nothing like the stock shape of these. Are there any marks on the barrels anywhere? Might give a pointer to the origin. Regards Stuart

28th January 2011, 10:49 PM	#3
TVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,725	The style of the barrel bands and the extensive use of bone makes me think this was North African work. Regards, Teodor

29th January 2011, 04:37 AM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,345	I agree with TVV, looking more like North African work. What an amazing pair - never seen anything like these before - beautiful!

30th January 2011, 05:28 AM	#6
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,345	Oh I agree with you Khanjar1. At first I would have thought Moroccan, but the stock style doesn't typically fit.......

30th January 2011, 07:29 AM	#7
kahnjar1 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND Posts: 2,810	Unfortunately the "marks" are not clear enough to identify, but that slot is a dovetail for an iron sight of some sort. The hole??? could be a crude way to deactivate the barrel . IF you have any ideas of firing these, get that hole checked out first!! Stuart