Prussian / Austrian side arm Help with I.D please.

Hotspur · 27th January 2011, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by broadaxe

I have seen this before, supposed to be a semi-official creation, kind of a late boarding cutlass, circa WWI. I also handled a similar item, a yataghan bayonet blade mated to an Austrian foot soldier sword hilt. Alas, I cannot find the reference.

Like this one?

Alpen Korp for the one in this thread (I do believe)

Cheers

GC

manokent · 31st January 2011, 10:03 AM

Thanks to you all for your constructive replies and advice. Unfortunately I can't see the attached image in Hotspurs last post. My initial instinct was that this was a police or similar officials sidearm. I am certain that this weapon was not a hastily thrown together 'marriage' as although of plain and cumbersome appearance it is well constructed. Surprisingly it also feels well balanced and comfortable in the hand. I would appreciate it if the Alpen Korps image could be sent again either here or to me directly. Finally I realize that this WW1 item is outside of the dateline for this forum but I honestly thought that this was of pre 1900's manufacture, my apologies!
Many thanks again!
Mark.

broadaxe · 31st January 2011, 01:27 PM

Hurrah - I found the reference

Frederick Stephens' Fighting Knives, pp. 12-13. I quote: "German Naval Marine Artillery sidearm, pattern 1911. A scarce example of an official modification..."
The letter M probably stands for Marine, check for OS on the ricasso, they stand for Ost See (= East Sea, the Baltic). The original scabbard bear some further naval marks.

manokent · 2nd February 2011, 10:44 AM

Thanks Broadaxe, Well remembered! I would never have considered a naval connection for this!! I am delighted to have nailed this one having owned it for over 6 months

. Unfortunately this came without a scabbard which may well have helped. No sign of OS on the ricasso though. I am going to order a copy of Frederick Stephens book today!
Many thanks again to all!

Mark.

31st January 2011, 10:03 AM	#2
manokent Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 11	Thanks to you all for your constructive replies and advice. Unfortunately I can't see the attached image in Hotspurs last post. My initial instinct was that this was a police or similar officials sidearm. I am certain that this weapon was not a hastily thrown together 'marriage' as although of plain and cumbersome appearance it is well constructed. Surprisingly it also feels well balanced and comfortable in the hand. I would appreciate it if the Alpen Korps image could be sent again either here or to me directly. Finally I realize that this WW1 item is outside of the dateline for this forum but I honestly thought that this was of pre 1900's manufacture, my apologies! Many thanks again! Mark.

31st January 2011, 01:27 PM	#3
broadaxe Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 334	Hurrah - I found the reference Frederick Stephens' Fighting Knives, pp. 12-13. I quote: "German Naval Marine Artillery sidearm, pattern 1911. A scarce example of an official modification..." The letter M probably stands for Marine, check for OS on the ricasso, they stand for Ost See (= East Sea, the Baltic). The original scabbard bear some further naval marks.

2nd February 2011, 10:44 AM	#4
manokent Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 11	Thanks Broadaxe, Well remembered! I would never have considered a naval connection for this!! I am delighted to have nailed this one having owned it for over 6 months . Unfortunately this came without a scabbard which may well have helped. No sign of OS on the ricasso though. I am going to order a copy of Frederick Stephens book today! Many thanks again to all! Mark.