Tatar saber for discussion

[ariel]

Originally Posted by ariel

During the Soviet regime, ownership of weapons was so strongly regulated that it was for all intents and purposes forbidden. Even buying a hunting knife in a specialized store required police check and permission (presumably, one could not slit somebody else's throat with a kitchen knife bought freely). Being caught by the police with a "finka" (a small knife in a style of Finnish puukko) landed one in jail for a couple of years. Thus, the Caucasians were understandably very leery of preserving their weapons at home and many were destroyed.Anything of artistic and historian value was confiscated to the museums and likely ended up hanging on the walls of local Party poo-bahs.
As to Tatar history, one shoul go to Lithuania, to the Trakai castle: only 20 mi from Vilnius, and an astonishing place of Lithuanian, Tatar and Caraite culture and, yes, weapons. I still remember dozens of old curved swords.....

If you think that Soviets were crazy, consider this: there is currently a movement in Great Britain (parliamentary discussions secondary to police requests) to ban the sale and the ownership of long and pointed kitchen knives. Apparently, too high percentage of crimes involved these implements (of course, since the gun ownership is banned, what else would criminals use!).
Thus, from now on, British chefs will have to use either short pointy knives or long and round-tip ones. The criminals, poor souls, will have either to slit their victim throats or, God forbid, break the law and resharpen their long knives.

[Rivkin]

Ha-ha-ha. Well, here are the statues of the city of Evanston, Illinois, USA:

"No person shall possess, in the City of Evanston, the following:
.....
(C) Any dangerous weapon as defined in Section 9-8-1(A).
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DANGEROUS WEAPONS: (A) Bludgeon, blackjack, slingshot, sand club, sap, metal knuckles or any knife the blade of which may be opened by hand pressure applied to a button, spring or other device in the handle of the knife, incendiary devices or any other weapon or instrument of like character.

(B) Dagger, dirk, billy, dangerous knife, razor, stiletto, broken bottle or other piece of glass, stun gun, or taser, weighted gloves, bow, arrows or any other weapon or instrument of like character. "

As you can see posession of broken glass (!!!!) is a crime down here .

[Rick]

Not so funny what a broken beer bottle held by the neck can do .
In MA they're considered a deadly weapon under the law .
I have seen the results first hand .
But we digress ....

[Tim Simmons]

The peasants are revolting Garden tools have allways made good weapons. You could take somebodies head off with a good clean spade as quick as any sword. Seriously I would line up all sharp, pointed and nasty things, and tell them not to do it again

[Rivkin]

Since we are talking about dances with swords, here is the clip:
http://www.irakli.ru/music/legend.wmv

Just a small portion of it is a traditional fighting dance, and unfortunately we already see chinese influence (people flying on strings), but it's not bad.

[ariel]

Rivkin, you brightened my day!
Gorgeous country of beautiful people!
They fell on hard times recently, and there seems to be no way out: no hatural resources except for wine and mzvadi (what we, in our ignorance, call Shishlik).
May God help them to regain their joy of life, glory and happiness!

[ariel]

And here is another Tatar Ordynka:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1

This one was on e-bay, but the auction is over and it is no longer active.
It has a Tamga, maybe Perkun can attribute it to a particular clan.

[Valjhun]

Originally Posted by ariel

If you think that Soviets were crazy, consider this: there is currently a movement in Great Britain (parliamentary discussions secondary to police requests) to ban the sale and the ownership of long and pointed kitchen knives. Apparently, too high percentage of crimes involved these implements (of course, since the gun ownership is banned, what else would criminals use!).
Thus, from now on, British chefs will have to use either short pointy knives or long and round-tip ones. The criminals, poor souls, will have either to slit their victim throats or, God forbid, break the law and resharpen their long knives.

You can always get a meter blade chainsaw to do some damage on the street muwahahahaa

Stupid laws by ignorant people

Rivkin, That's the nicest thing I saw in a while. I like that music very much! Where i can buy a CD?