Strange cutting weapons of Mirkasims army with pix. ex.Nepal

spiral · 27th June 2005, 04:17 PM

Well chaps, The little Pata may be about 3 ft long as I seem to remember.

The sword has writing or squiggle patterns anyway

& carved animal figures as I recall.

Hers some more unusual pieces!

Kora & a sword {khanda I guess?}with a 6ft plus blade!

Cheers for the history lesson & legal perspective guys!

Spiral

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Berkley · 27th June 2005, 04:48 PM

Spiral,what an amazing group of weapons! The kukri, which by itself would be a stunner, looks absolutely dull when contrasted with the fantastic koras, the ram dao, and the khanda and shield! Did giants really walk the earth?

fearn · 27th June 2005, 06:45 PM

Cool weapons.

Not being a lawyer, I'll stay out of that discussion

However, I think that the thin-bladed swords might be "firangi" blades, which i believe were European rapier blades (trade blades) fitted with Indian handles.

As for the patas, I thought the bigger ones got up to 4' long. 3' would look stubby if this is so, although I think it's a saner length. Then again, the losers had the short swords, so go figure.

Fearn

ariel · 27th June 2005, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by fearn

Cool weapons.

Not being a lawyer, I'll stay out of that discussion

However, I think that the thin-bladed swords might be "firangi" blades, which i believe were European rapier blades (trade blades) fitted with Indian handles.

As for the patas, I thought the bigger ones got up to 4' long. 3' would look stubby if this is so, although I think it's a saner length. Then again, the losers had the short swords, so go figure.

Fearn

They look awfully thin even for rapiers. |
The word rapier comes from Spanish "espada ropera", dress sword. The older European swords supplying their blades for the "firangis" were pretty broad and sturdy. Dress swords were semi-ceremonial and, if used for fighting, were mostly (not entirely!) for stabbing and as such often triangular.. They were shortish (one would not expect a fancy gentleman to drag a long piece or iron oved the dancing floor!).
The ones in the Nepalese museum look very long, narrow and flat: slashers mostly, like patas. Would be interesting to know their actual dimensions: that would help a lot.

spiral · 27th June 2005, 08:51 PM

For perspective of size, cases 1 & 3 {internaly} are the same height as a Brown Bess musket. {60 inches.} not sure about case 2.

Would like to have recorded more data than I did, other than photos, & sparse notes & did with some kukri, but theres probably between 1000 & 1200 weapons on display. {manily kora, kukri, khanda, katar & tulwar.}

I could have happily stuided each piece for several hours!

If only!

Spiral

ariel · 27th June 2005, 09:14 PM

I have been to Topkapi and Askeri Muze in Istanbul and know the feeling....

Andrew · 27th June 2005, 10:28 PM

Spiral: Thanks for sharing these.

Berk: You're not charging enough.

Rick/Mark: That looks about right to me. Cash, the gift that shows you really care!

Ariel: That doesn't sound like brain surgery.

ariel · 27th June 2005, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Berkley

Spiral,what an amazing group of weapons! The kukri, which by itself would be a stunner, looks absolutely dull when contrasted with the fantastic koras, the ram dao, and the khanda and shield! Did giants really walk the earth?

I also had a feeling that the weapons were gigantic.
Then I realised we had no reference point ...
Any info on the actual size?

27th June 2005, 04:17 PM	#1
spiral Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,712	Well chaps, The little Pata may be about 3 ft long as I seem to remember. The sword has writing or squiggle patterns anyway & carved animal figures as I recall. Hers some more unusual pieces! Kora & a sword {khanda I guess?}with a 6ft plus blade! Cheers for the history lesson & legal perspective guys! Spiral Photo. copywright Spiral JRS 2005. If used elswere please include aknowledgment. Attached Images

27th June 2005, 04:48 PM	#2
Berkley Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Austin, Texas USA Posts: 257	Spiral,what an amazing group of weapons! The kukri, which by itself would be a stunner, looks absolutely dull when contrasted with the fantastic koras, the ram dao, and the khanda and shield! Did giants really walk the earth?

27th June 2005, 06:45 PM	#3
fearn Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,247	Cool weapons. Not being a lawyer, I'll stay out of that discussion However, I think that the thin-bladed swords might be "firangi" blades, which i believe were European rapier blades (trade blades) fitted with Indian handles. As for the patas, I thought the bigger ones got up to 4' long. 3' would look stubby if this is so, although I think it's a saner length. Then again, the losers had the short swords, so go figure. Fearn

27th June 2005, 08:51 PM	#5
spiral Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,712	For perspective of size, cases 1 & 3 {internaly} are the same height as a Brown Bess musket. {60 inches.} not sure about case 2. Would like to have recorded more data than I did, other than photos, & sparse notes & did with some kukri, but theres probably between 1000 & 1200 weapons on display. {manily kora, kukri, khanda, katar & tulwar.} I could have happily stuided each piece for several hours! If only! Spiral

27th June 2005, 09:14 PM	#6
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	I have been to Topkapi and Askeri Muze in Istanbul and know the feeling....

27th June 2005, 10:28 PM	#7
Andrew Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: USA Posts: 1,725	Spiral: Thanks for sharing these. Berk: You're not charging enough. Rick/Mark: That looks about right to me. Cash, the gift that shows you really care! Ariel: That doesn't sound like brain surgery.