Keris Bali

David · 19th January 2011, 05:31 PM

This type of gonjo on Bali keris is uncommon, but not unique. You can see a similar one in van Duuren's The Kris on page 73.
I do have suspicions of yours being not very old Henri. There is something that just doesn't sit right with me in terms of the carving, overall dhapur and the erosion of the blade. But photos can be misleading and i could be way off on this.
The hilt looks lovely and i would love to see it cleaned up a little...

Sajen · 19th January 2011, 06:41 PM

Hi Henri,

welcome to the forum. Your keris is indeed a Bali keris. The hilt of your keris is very nice and of good craftsman skill but my feeling is that it isn't very old.
Like David mentioned already is it difficult to give a 100% sure statement by pictures but from the pictures you posted I have my doubts about the blade. I think that the naga is a later addition to an older blade same as the gonjo. I may be wrong by this but it is very common to see modified keris blades in the last years.

Regards,

Detlef

drdavid · 19th January 2011, 08:52 PM

Hi Henri
as the others have said, welcome.
I also think this is a blade of modest age and has been recently "adjusted" to suit a more flamboyant taste. The gonjo does not look to have the same age as the blade based on corrosion, the carving of the naga looks a bit strange as does the sogokan. The hilt is nice, typical Bali
drdavid

Henk · 19th January 2011, 09:13 PM

Henri,

Welcome to the forum.

I would like to see the scabbard or sarong. Lovely ukiran.
For the blade i'm afraid Sajen and drdavid are right. The naga is a later addition and so is the gonjo. I'm afraid the keris is modified to pleasure those who travel for pleasure.

If the sarong is as nice as the ukiran, you got your self a nice pimped Balinese or Lombok keris.

henri · 19th January 2011, 09:41 PM

Thank you all to welcome me and for your help and input . First post to this forum ..... and really not disappointed !

Bought this keris 17 luks last week with a balato . A little bit less fancy than the previous one but a nice dapur and a typical bali hilt . The warangka seems to be original but new gandar . All comments are welcome !

Henri

David · 20th January 2011, 04:04 AM

I like this one Henri. Normally i would recommend that you start a new thread to discuss a completely different keris unless you think there is some connection. Since we have these two together i would have to say that this second keris has much more original and old integrity than your first offerring. The 17 luks make it a bit unusual too. Simple, but sweet.

Sajen · 20th January 2011, 08:51 PM

Agree complete with David, this keris seems to be in all parts original.

How fit the blade inside the sheath?

Regards,

Detlef

19th January 2011, 09:41 PM	#5
henri Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Australia Posts: 81	Thank you all to welcome me and for your help and input . First post to this forum ..... and really not disappointed ! Bought this keris 17 luks last week with a balato . A little bit less fancy than the previous one but a nice dapur and a typical bali hilt . The warangka seems to be original but new gandar . All comments are welcome ! Henri Attached Images

19th January 2011, 05:31 PM	#1
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,211	This type of gonjo on Bali keris is uncommon, but not unique. You can see a similar one in van Duuren's The Kris on page 73. I do have suspicions of yours being not very old Henri. There is something that just doesn't sit right with me in terms of the carving, overall dhapur and the erosion of the blade. But photos can be misleading and i could be way off on this. The hilt looks lovely and i would love to see it cleaned up a little...

19th January 2011, 06:41 PM	#2
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,165	Hi Henri, welcome to the forum. Your keris is indeed a Bali keris. The hilt of your keris is very nice and of good craftsman skill but my feeling is that it isn't very old. Like David mentioned already is it difficult to give a 100% sure statement by pictures but from the pictures you posted I have my doubts about the blade. I think that the naga is a later addition to an older blade same as the gonjo. I may be wrong by this but it is very common to see modified keris blades in the last years. Regards, Detlef

19th January 2011, 08:52 PM	#3
drdavid Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 372	Hi Henri as the others have said, welcome. I also think this is a blade of modest age and has been recently "adjusted" to suit a more flamboyant taste. The gonjo does not look to have the same age as the blade based on corrosion, the carving of the naga looks a bit strange as does the sogokan. The hilt is nice, typical Bali drdavid

19th January 2011, 09:13 PM	#4
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	Henri, Welcome to the forum. I would like to see the scabbard or sarong. Lovely ukiran. For the blade i'm afraid Sajen and drdavid are right. The naga is a later addition and so is the gonjo. I'm afraid the keris is modified to pleasure those who travel for pleasure. If the sarong is as nice as the ukiran, you got your self a nice pimped Balinese or Lombok keris.

20th January 2011, 04:04 AM	#6
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,211	I like this one Henri. Normally i would recommend that you start a new thread to discuss a completely different keris unless you think there is some connection. Since we have these two together i would have to say that this second keris has much more original and old integrity than your first offerring. The 17 luks make it a bit unusual too. Simple, but sweet.

20th January 2011, 08:51 PM	#7
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,165	Agree complete with David, this keris seems to be in all parts original. How fit the blade inside the sheath? Regards, Detlef