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13th January 2011, 03:22 PM
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That is a Bagaboo knife from the Philippines not a jambiya. Nice example though.
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13th January 2011, 03:28 PM
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Thanks Lew, now I know where to focus my research.
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13th January 2011, 03:40 PM
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Women's dagger from Bagobo in South East Mindanao, PI. Last edited by celtan; 13th January 2011 at 04:06 PM. |
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13th January 2011, 04:23 PM
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it's not an island but a ethnic group from the Philippines/Mindanao, look here: http://en.wikipilipinas.org/index.php?title=Bagobo I have bought recently a similar knife. This knifes are called Sangi. They coming with wooden sheat, metal sheath or braided sheath as well. I am not 100% certain if it is a Sangi from the Bagobo ethnic group since this knifes are common by some other ethnics also but all Lumad tribes. Here is mine: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=sangi Search by keyword " Sangi " and you will find some more. BTW, nice example you have there. Regards, Detlef |
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13th January 2011, 04:28 PM
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Yes, that's a nice and decorative high end example. These are generally considered household chore utility knives, but yours looks like it was made for show or for a woman of status...
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13th January 2011, 04:33 PM
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Here is a link to mine and a few other examples. Some members maintain that these knives were also used by men. All the writing i have seen about them call them a woman's knife and i have yet to see any evidence, photographic or otherwise to counter this. Maybe someone has some photos...
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=7506 |
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13th January 2011, 04:40 PM
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Hi David,
Your thread is where I got most of the info from..! : ) Best Manuel Quote:
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13th January 2011, 04:52 PM
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Hello David, in this thread Migueldiaz show two pictures: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=sangi By both is clearly to seen that a man wear a Sangi. Regards, Detlef |
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13th January 2011, 04:31 PM
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Hi Detlef,
Still, this type of dagger is often described as using wood handles and scabbards. An yet, this one is made of some dark copper alloy, bronze? The position and numbher of the hawkbells is also intriguing. Thank you kindly..! BR : ) M Quote:
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13th January 2011, 05:23 PM
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nothing to thank. Maybe your Sangi is from the T'boli or B'laan since this ethnic groups have swords as well with with brass hilts. Search a little bit and you will see what I mean. And here a link where is shown a very similar Sangi like yours: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=Tboli Again, very nice grab you have done with this knife! Regards, Detlef |
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13th January 2011, 07:28 PM
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Thanks guys,
I believe it was made late 19th or early 20th C, on account of the chain links on the belt. Seems native Filipinos were handy recycling any metal scraps they could get their hands on. They also seem to have been very small, the width of the belt being 27". Heck, as a teen I was tall and thin as a reed, and I vaguely recall (very vaguely, as if an impossible dream) having once had a waist-width of 31"... Or was it used hanging from the shoulder? Best M |
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