dukun keris ended on ebay

BluErf · 29th December 2010, 03:13 PM

Looks like the Coneheads meet bug-eyed monster meet Incan nose guy meet Egyptian Pharoah with beard on steroids...

Gustav · 29th December 2010, 10:16 PM

Just think a bit about where are we now in a year, and you will understand it....

it's Santa-Claus!!!!

The problematic point is to call it "Keris Tombak" and "Rencong" and "estimate" it as "Tangguh Majapahit" after these three books, all other things may have happened, or may not with this item.

Rick · 29th December 2010, 10:45 PM

Great minds think alike Gustav ...

He does remind me of Ho Chi Minh also .

asomotif · 29th December 2010, 11:22 PM

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For the finishing price; well, you tell me

Prices for old metals have gone up, but only non ferro metals.
For iron this is still a high price

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it's Santa-Claus!!!!

LOL

Yes, that was my feeling too. especially being offered in the X-mas season.

But seriously, I still have some questions.
- Is there any market for such an item within Indonesia, maybe as a djimat ?
- Or is such an item purely made for outsiders/western collectors ?
- Also I wonder if due to the nice book on keris sajen we might encounter more fantasy keris like objects in the future ?

David · 30th December 2010, 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by asomotif

- Also I wonder if due to the nice book on keris sajen we might encounter more fantasy keris like objects in the future ?

I would think that a book like Ancient Ancestors would be more likely to discourage objects like this. In my quick perusal of that book i didn't see anything that looked like this...

Newsteel · 30th December 2010, 04:20 PM

Common gentlemen, you got to be serious. Look at the dapur. It's the dukun (shaman or male witch) himself... lol

tunggulametung · 1st January 2011, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by asomotif

But seriously, I still have some questions.
- Is there any market for such an item within Indonesia, maybe as a djimat ?
- Or is such an item purely made for outsiders/western collectors ?

Hello Asomotif, I think I can firmly answer this. Yes, there is a narrow domestic market for such item for different purposes

but generally speaking as jimat/charm. From my observation the Semar shape being the most popular. Outsiders? Seriously? Do you mean like mysterious creatures from Mars? Well all I can say is that you don't need Indonesian passport to buy such item. Hope this help.

asomotif · 2nd January 2011, 11:08 AM

Hello tunggulametung,

Thanks for your reply.
ET buy keris

NO, by Outsiders I meant people from outside the indonesian culture.
But from your reply I understand that this object may also be made a a djimat.
The shape of an old man with hat and beard does not look very Indonesian to me, so therefore I had the feeling that this was made for westerners.

Best wishes for 2011 !

Willem

kulbuntet · 3rd January 2011, 01:31 AM

Bit kudi (kudjang) like

29th December 2010, 10:16 PM	#2
Gustav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,295	Just think a bit about where are we now in a year, and you will understand it.... it's Santa-Claus!!!! The problematic point is to call it "Keris Tombak" and "Rencong" and "estimate" it as "Tangguh Majapahit" after these three books, all other things may have happened, or may not with this item. Last edited by Gustav; 29th December 2010 at 10:26 PM. Reason: Sorry Rick, I wasn't aware, Keris Keringle is S-C! Pardon.

29th December 2010, 03:13 PM	#1
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	Looks like the Coneheads meet bug-eyed monster meet Incan nose guy meet Egyptian Pharoah with beard on steroids...

29th December 2010, 10:45 PM	#3
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,376	Great minds think alike Gustav ... He does remind me of Ho Chi Minh also .

30th December 2010, 04:20 PM	#6
Newsteel Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 132	Common gentlemen, you got to be serious. Look at the dapur. It's the dukun (shaman or male witch) himself... lol

2nd January 2011, 11:08 AM	#8
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,237	Hello tunggulametung, Thanks for your reply. ET buy keris NO, by Outsiders I meant people from outside the indonesian culture. But from your reply I understand that this object may also be made a a djimat. The shape of an old man with hat and beard does not look very Indonesian to me, so therefore I had the feeling that this was made for westerners. Best wishes for 2011 ! Willem

3rd January 2011, 01:31 AM	#9
kulbuntet Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands Posts: 159	Bit kudi (kudjang) like