New sword, Bosnia?

Atlantia · 12th December 2010, 04:22 PM

It does look Balkan to me. Can we see the decoration on the scabbard and the stitching on the leather part close-up?

Nagawarrior · 12th December 2010, 05:49 PM

Here are some more pictures. I hope they help. Thank you for your input. Very much appreciated.

Atlantia · 12th December 2010, 05:56 PM

That curly wire connector where the leather is joined is a style I see on Greek/Balkan/Turkish pieces.
As Battara says, the circles are familiar from Afghan items, but now that we can see the other details, I'd say its more to the west.
It doesn't look Greek to me, possibly Turkish, but Balkan seems favourite (IMHO).
The decoration on the scabbard with the chevron and orb is very distinctive. Must be a giveaway clue for someone to ID it?

TVV · 12th December 2010, 09:30 PM

The dot in circle decoration from what I have read is supposed to signify heaven, with the little dot in the center symbolizing Allah's central position in the universe. As a result, it is not surprisingly very wide spread and typical of many areas, making attribution based solely on this symbol hard.

I am attaching a picture of some Bosnian knives, where you can clearly see similar decoration on the hilt of the second knife from the left. My guess therefore would be Western Balkans.

Regards,
Teodor

Battara · 13th December 2010, 07:05 PM

That is very helpful TVV. Did not know that about the dot and circle. I have seen these on Balkan arms as well, but not lumped together in this type of configuration except on Afgani/north central Asian pieces.

What you said does make sense of the use of some form of dot and circle motif all over the Islamic world.

Nagawarrior · 13th December 2010, 11:50 PM

Thank you for all your comments. I really appreciate your input. I've searched all over the internet and haven't found another sword exactly like mine. The Bosnian pieces are the closest. Unless other evidence surfaces I'll keep with the Balkan origin.

Rumpel · 24th December 2010, 07:18 PM

A kurban noz?

12th December 2010, 05:49 PM	#2
Nagawarrior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Inland Empire, Southern California USA Posts: 160	Here are some more pictures. I hope they help. Thank you for your input. Very much appreciated. Attached Images

12th December 2010, 05:56 PM	#3
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	That curly wire connector where the leather is joined is a style I see on Greek/Balkan/Turkish pieces. As Battara says, the circles are familiar from Afghan items, but now that we can see the other details, I'd say its more to the west. It doesn't look Greek to me, possibly Turkish, but Balkan seems favourite (IMHO). The decoration on the scabbard with the chevron and orb is very distinctive. Must be a giveaway clue for someone to ID it? Last edited by Atlantia; 12th December 2010 at 06:13 PM.

12th December 2010, 09:30 PM	#4
TVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,660	The dot in circle decoration from what I have read is supposed to signify heaven, with the little dot in the center symbolizing Allah's central position in the universe. As a result, it is not surprisingly very wide spread and typical of many areas, making attribution based solely on this symbol hard. I am attaching a picture of some Bosnian knives, where you can clearly see similar decoration on the hilt of the second knife from the left. My guess therefore would be Western Balkans. Regards, Teodor Attached Images

12th December 2010, 04:22 PM	#1
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	It does look Balkan to me. Can we see the decoration on the scabbard and the stitching on the leather part close-up?

13th December 2010, 07:05 PM	#5
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	That is very helpful TVV. Did not know that about the dot and circle. I have seen these on Balkan arms as well, but not lumped together in this type of configuration except on Afgani/north central Asian pieces. What you said does make sense of the use of some form of dot and circle motif all over the Islamic world.

13th December 2010, 11:50 PM	#6
Nagawarrior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Inland Empire, Southern California USA Posts: 160	Thank you for all your comments. I really appreciate your input. I've searched all over the internet and haven't found another sword exactly like mine. The Bosnian pieces are the closest. Unless other evidence surfaces I'll keep with the Balkan origin.

24th December 2010, 07:18 PM	#7
Rumpel Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 63	A kurban noz?