OTΤOMAN PALA RESTORATION

ariel · 11th December 2010, 09:59 PM

Can you provide more detailed information on the preparation and heating of the sealing mix?

libra · 13th December 2010, 09:02 AM

Hi to All

Delor the sealing composition I find it my self afterwards from a lot of failures!
We have seen that a lot of swords have something like this,the main
component is resin.
The only report that we have is from Robert Elgood's book THE ARMS OF GREECE.
Ariel
I dont have exact quantities of the materials that I use because I make it through my experience.Several times I start with small quantities of each material and judging the result an then I add parts from the material that I believe that is missing.So it is more due to my experince than a standar recipe.
You heat the recin on the fire and you put first the brik dust then the sealing wax(red)!
When become all homogeneous you put the plaster and you mix them!
As more plaster you put you make the mix more stroger!
Best.
Aristeidis

Battara · 13th December 2010, 07:09 PM

Great work and I bow in your presence!

I do have a little of TVV's and Sajen's reservations on the total replacement of things. Of course if the client want's it this way, well...............

ariel · 13th December 2010, 11:04 PM

Thanks for the " recipe". I am also intrigued by the crossguard: did you put a newly-cast one instead of the original? Do you actually cast them yourself? Are they for sale?

libra · 15th December 2010, 09:40 AM

Hi Ariel.
Yes we have putted a new one at this restoration because the old one was at bad condition.
We have made it from the start.First we have carved it at casting wax and then we made the casting.We can produce crossguards also with patination but at this one our friend wanted to be ''shine'' enough.
We will be glad to sell at any forum member who wants crossguards.
Also we can produce any desing that you desire and any type of crossguards.
All the best.
Aristeidis.

ariel · 15th December 2010, 11:59 AM

Aristeidis,
You have a PM.
Also, how do you heat the mix? In boiling water or straight on fire? Doesn't it catch fire?

libra · 15th December 2010, 12:37 PM

Hi Ariel.
I heat the mix at a metal bowl on fire.But be careful because it catch fire if you boil it.It must be melted not boiled.
All the best.
Aristeidis

11th December 2010, 09:59 PM	#1
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Can you provide more detailed information on the preparation and heating of the sealing mix?

13th December 2010, 09:02 AM	#2
libra Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: GREECE Patras Posts: 40	Hi to All Delor the sealing composition I find it my self afterwards from a lot of failures! We have seen that a lot of swords have something like this,the main component is resin. The only report that we have is from Robert Elgood's book THE ARMS OF GREECE. Ariel I dont have exact quantities of the materials that I use because I make it through my experience.Several times I start with small quantities of each material and judging the result an then I add parts from the material that I believe that is missing.So it is more due to my experince than a standar recipe. You heat the recin on the fire and you put first the brik dust then the sealing wax(red)! When become all homogeneous you put the plaster and you mix them! As more plaster you put you make the mix more stroger! Best. Aristeidis

13th December 2010, 07:09 PM	#3
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	Great work and I bow in your presence! I do have a little of TVV's and Sajen's reservations on the total replacement of things. Of course if the client want's it this way, well...............

13th December 2010, 11:04 PM	#4
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Thanks for the " recipe". I am also intrigued by the crossguard: did you put a newly-cast one instead of the original? Do you actually cast them yourself? Are they for sale?

15th December 2010, 09:40 AM	#5
libra Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: GREECE Patras Posts: 40	Hi Ariel. Yes we have putted a new one at this restoration because the old one was at bad condition. We have made it from the start.First we have carved it at casting wax and then we made the casting.We can produce crossguards also with patination but at this one our friend wanted to be ''shine'' enough. We will be glad to sell at any forum member who wants crossguards. Also we can produce any desing that you desire and any type of crossguards. All the best. Aristeidis.

15th December 2010, 11:59 AM	#6
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Aristeidis, You have a PM. Also, how do you heat the mix? In boiling water or straight on fire? Doesn't it catch fire?

15th December 2010, 12:37 PM	#7
libra Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: GREECE Patras Posts: 40	Hi Ariel. I heat the mix at a metal bowl on fire.But be careful because it catch fire if you boil it.It must be melted not boiled. All the best. Aristeidis