Blade cross cut shape description

Gavin Nugent · 11th December 2010, 07:01 AM

My understanding is they are referred to as Trefoil blades which was the attribution to the three point cross section and the profile was call triangular blades due to their shape.

Gav

Jim McDougall · 11th December 2010, 06:10 PM

Excellent input Gav! I had forgotten the 'trefoil' term, which does seem applicable if we must adopt a term for these blades. The 'hollow' term seems more a descriptive term to the concave section of the blade face in varying applications in cross section.

All the best,
Jim

celtan · 12th December 2010, 02:00 PM

Hi Guys,

Once again, trefoil literally means "three edges" ( tres filos) , and applies to _any_ triangular crosscut blade. I know, I feel, I'm sure that there must be an _specific_ term that applies to the cross-cut I'm presenting. SWord making is (one of ) the oldest proffession (s)!

: )

So far, the only one that I believe fulfills the requirement is "foliate" (leaf-like), but I haven't seen it being used. I'm looking for a term that is unique to this shape, better suited and historically based. I haven't seen other blades with this crosscut, although some old pictures from Kissak at the Stockholm Military Museum seem to be of a similar blade.

Best regards.

M

fernando · 12th December 2010, 02:38 PM

Funny; i find 'foliate' ugly ... and clumsy

.
You're right, there must be something more technical ... and well put.

celtan · 12th December 2010, 06:09 PM

C'mon Nando,

You're just envious that I coined that term before you did...

Its waxing poetic'. Simple, concise , beautifully apropos, a delight to utter. Heck, it's even eco-friendly!

Just think of the alternative "lamina de tres quinas e mesas concavas"...

Egad!

Take care

Manolo

Quote:

Originally Posted by fernando

Funny; i find 'foliate' ugly ... and clumsy

.
You're right, there must be something more technical ... and well put.

fearn · 12th December 2010, 08:54 PM

You know, I was just looking up the terms for leaves, to see if there was something mellifluous that might work here. For leaves, the term is "keeled" as if the leaf blade were keeled like a boat.

You could call it a keeled triangular blade. That's slightly better than single fullered triangular, which was my other idea. I still like epee blade, though.

Best,

F

celtan · 12th December 2010, 10:51 PM

You're keeling me here!

( Actually, a rather good suggestion. )

Best

M

Quote:

Originally Posted by fearn

You know, I was just looking up the terms for leaves, to see if there was something mellifluous that might work here. For leaves, the term is "keeled" as if the leaf blade were keeled like a boat.

You could call it a keeled triangular blade. That's slightly better than single fullered triangular, which was my other idea. I still like epee blade, though.

Best,

F

11th December 2010, 07:01 AM	#1
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	My understanding My understanding is they are referred to as Trefoil blades which was the attribution to the three point cross section and the profile was call triangular blades due to their shape. Gav Last edited by freebooter; 11th December 2010 at 08:09 AM.

11th December 2010, 06:10 PM	#2
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,200	Excellent input Gav! I had forgotten the 'trefoil' term, which does seem applicable if we must adopt a term for these blades. The 'hollow' term seems more a descriptive term to the concave section of the blade face in varying applications in cross section. All the best, Jim

12th December 2010, 02:00 PM	#3
celtan Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: PR, USA Posts: 679	Hi Guys, Once again, trefoil literally means "three edges" ( tres filos) , and applies to _any_ triangular crosscut blade. I know, I feel, I'm sure that there must be an _specific_ term that applies to the cross-cut I'm presenting. SWord making is (one of ) the oldest proffession (s)! : ) So far, the only one that I believe fulfills the requirement is "foliate" (leaf-like), but I haven't seen it being used. I'm looking for a term that is unique to this shape, better suited and historically based. I haven't seen other blades with this crosscut, although some old pictures from Kissak at the Stockholm Military Museum seem to be of a similar blade. Best regards. M

12th December 2010, 02:38 PM	#4
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Funny; i find 'foliate' ugly ... and clumsy . You're right, there must be something more technical ... and well put.

12th December 2010, 08:54 PM	#6
fearn Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,247	You know, I was just looking up the terms for leaves, to see if there was something mellifluous that might work here. For leaves, the term is "keeled" as if the leaf blade were keeled like a boat. You could call it a keeled triangular blade. That's slightly better than single fullered triangular, which was my other idea. I still like epee blade, though. Best, F