3 Brothers

BluErf · 9th December 2010, 03:00 PM

Ah, Dave's 'missing link' hilt. But one thing that's not consistent with the modern Jawa Demam is that it's posture is not one arm hugging the other, and though the face is looking downwards, it doesn't have a pointy garuda mungkur at the back of the head...

Gustav · 12th December 2010, 11:36 PM

Another possibility of a "missing link".

Gustav · 12th December 2010, 11:42 PM

Here we have another possibility of a "missing link". In van der Hoop's trilingual book "Indonesian ornamental design" from 1949 (which still now is a reference book) on page 99 there is a depiction of a hilt, he writes: Ditto (which means ivory in this case), Middle Java: KBG no. 22900 ( museum of Koninklijk Bataviaasch Genootschap). To my oppinion, this book is for its age very precize with descriptions.

Of course, it's just a 2-dimensional front picture of a Keris hilt. Interesting for me is the symbol on the belly of this figure - Lotus or Amerta (associated with Garuda), on similar place found also on some Bugis hilts?

12th December 2010, 11:36 PM	#2
Gustav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,273	Another possibility of a "missing link". Last edited by Gustav; 13th December 2010 at 07:06 AM. Reason: see the next post

12th December 2010, 11:42 PM	#3
Gustav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,273	Here we have another possibility of a "missing link". In van der Hoop's trilingual book "Indonesian ornamental design" from 1949 (which still now is a reference book) on page 99 there is a depiction of a hilt, he writes: Ditto (which means ivory in this case), Middle Java: KBG no. 22900 ( museum of Koninklijk Bataviaasch Genootschap). To my oppinion, this book is for its age very precize with descriptions. Of course, it's just a 2-dimensional front picture of a Keris hilt. Interesting for me is the symbol on the belly of this figure - Lotus or Amerta (associated with Garuda), on similar place found also on some Bugis hilts? Attached Images Last edited by Gustav; 13th December 2010 at 07:22 AM.

9th December 2010, 03:00 PM	#1
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	Ah, Dave's 'missing link' hilt. But one thing that's not consistent with the modern Jawa Demam is that it's posture is not one arm hugging the other, and though the face is looking downwards, it doesn't have a pointy garuda mungkur at the back of the head...