Yet another Yat

Spunjer · 5th December 2010, 09:53 PM

not my field, but when i see beauty, it's hard to say no

. here's the pride of the ottomans. not sure the origin of this yataghan, but whoever had this comissioned must be an influential fellow. handle is walrus ivory, sheath is silver and the blade has so much gold, you woulda thought it was made in el dorado. any comments regarding its origin, or any comments?

Spunjer · 5th December 2010, 09:54 PM

more gold fever...

David · 5th December 2010, 10:22 PM

Sweet! But i thought you were in "sell" mode these days...

Spunjer · 5th December 2010, 10:42 PM

yep, that's for sho...

but never got out of "trade" mode

David · 5th December 2010, 10:46 PM

I'd imagine you traded a bit for it...

TVV · 5th December 2010, 11:08 PM

Very beautiful yataghan, congratulations. Per Astvatsaturian, based on the bolster, this would fall into the Istanbul type. Her classification system is not absolute and there are some mistakes, but given the overall quality of this piece, I can completely imagine that this was indeed produced in the Ottoman capital for a person of significance. His name and maybe even the name of the maker are likely in the two panels on the left side of the blade.

Regards,
Teodor

David · 5th December 2010, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TVV

His name and maybe even the name of the maker are likely in the two panels on the left side of the blade.

I think that mean's "It's time for my close-up Mr. DeMille..."

Atlantia · 5th December 2010, 11:45 PM

"Yet another Yat"

You could hardly underplay that any more could you?
BEAUTIFUL!

Spunjer · 6th December 2010, 01:04 AM

here are the two blocks that has the info. one of them looks like it was scratched out on purpose, but hopefully still readable. i darkened it on purpose hoping it helps. the other one is very legible...

Spunjer · 6th December 2010, 01:18 AM

the handle, and more gold...

Battara · 6th December 2010, 03:45 AM

What a nice yat! Love the koftgari and silver scabbard.

So TVV you read Russian?

TVV · 6th December 2010, 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Battara

What a nice yat! Love the koftgari and silver scabbard.

So TVV you read Russian?

A little bit - I can understand pretty much everything, but I do not speak it, if this makes sense.

Teodor

Zifir · 6th December 2010, 07:53 PM

Hi,
Some parts of the second inscription are too much worn to be eligible, but this is my best guess.

Best,

RSWORD · 6th December 2010, 08:00 PM

That sure is a purty yat!

Spunjer · 7th December 2010, 02:40 AM

thanks for the translation, zifir! since the last figure is missing, we can just assume that the date would be between (hijiri calendar) 1220 to 1229, which would translate to gregorian calendar 1805 to 1813. is that correct?
as for the second phrase "sene Agha Ahmed sahib ????? amel-i"..., what would that be in english?
is that pretty common to have the name like that erased? i just find it odd that the first inscription is still intact, and the other one looks as if it was tampered on purpose.

thanky, batara and rsword! might take this to kentucy expo if i make it this february

Battara · 7th December 2010, 04:10 AM

That would be great bro!

BTW - an aga/agha is a commander in the Ottoman military and it belonged to him. I think the maker was what is erased. Basically owned by commander Ahmed, "made by......(garble, garble)."

5th December 2010, 09:53 PM	#1
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	Yet another Yat not my field, but when i see beauty, it's hard to say no . here's the pride of the ottomans. not sure the origin of this yataghan, but whoever had this comissioned must be an influential fellow. handle is walrus ivory, sheath is silver and the blade has so much gold, you woulda thought it was made in el dorado. any comments regarding its origin, or any comments?

6th December 2010, 01:04 AM	#9
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	here are the two blocks that has the info. one of them looks like it was scratched out on purpose, but hopefully still readable. i darkened it on purpose hoping it helps. the other one is very legible... Attached Images

6th December 2010, 07:53 PM	#13
Zifir Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Istanbul Posts: 228	Hi, Some parts of the second inscription are too much worn to be eligible, but this is my best guess. Best, Attached Images

5th December 2010, 09:54 PM	#2
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	more gold fever...

5th December 2010, 10:22 PM	#3
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,250	Sweet! But i thought you were in "sell" mode these days...

5th December 2010, 10:42 PM	#4
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	yep, that's for sho... but never got out of "trade" mode

5th December 2010, 10:46 PM	#5
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,250	I'd imagine you traded a bit for it...

5th December 2010, 11:08 PM	#6
TVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,725	Very beautiful yataghan, congratulations. Per Astvatsaturian, based on the bolster, this would fall into the Istanbul type. Her classification system is not absolute and there are some mistakes, but given the overall quality of this piece, I can completely imagine that this was indeed produced in the Ottoman capital for a person of significance. His name and maybe even the name of the maker are likely in the two panels on the left side of the blade. Regards, Teodor

5th December 2010, 11:45 PM	#8
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	"Yet another Yat" You could hardly underplay that any more could you? BEAUTIFUL!

6th December 2010, 01:18 AM	#10
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	the handle, and more gold...

6th December 2010, 03:45 AM	#11
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,345	What a nice yat! Love the koftgari and silver scabbard. So TVV you read Russian?

6th December 2010, 08:00 PM	#14
RSWORD Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,093	That sure is a purty yat!

7th December 2010, 02:40 AM	#15
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	thanks for the translation, zifir! since the last figure is missing, we can just assume that the date would be between (hijiri calendar) 1220 to 1229, which would translate to gregorian calendar 1805 to 1813. is that correct? as for the second phrase "sene Agha Ahmed sahib ????? amel-i"..., what would that be in english? is that pretty common to have the name like that erased? i just find it odd that the first inscription is still intact, and the other one looks as if it was tampered on purpose. thanky, batara and rsword! might take this to kentucy expo if i make it this february

7th December 2010, 04:10 AM	#16
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,345	That would be great bro! BTW - an aga/agha is a commander in the Ottoman military and it belonged to him. I think the maker was what is erased. Basically owned by commander Ahmed, "made by......(garble, garble)."