old style barung! Borneo?

[Maurice]

Originally Posted by migueldiaz

I was able to dig up my copy of Juynboll (bought this from Arjan earlier). Please see attached excerpts. What would be the translation of this, please? Thanks in advance

OK Lorenz, here we go! I hope you didn't expect too much of it!

1183/135-136. As forward (barong3), the blade pointed oval, the edge chisel-shaped sharpened.
The grip of yellow (135) or brown (136) palmwood, upwards thicker, coated with silver, within many of circular grooves; the upper part in the shape of a triangular, stylized birdhead with peaked beak and long protrusion, at the bottom of the backside crenated; the uppersurface diamondshaped with a centre-rib.
Scabbard of two slabs of (glued) brown wood, at the upperpart broadened with two scalloped curls; no. 136 at the upperside surrounded with ratan strips and decorated with incised curls, and at the outside foreseen of a grooved cross-rib.S.

[migueldiaz]

Originally Posted by Maurice

1183/135-136. As forward (barong3), the blade pointed oval, the edge chisel-shaped sharpened.

Thanks Maurice, for all the pics and info! It's truly much appreciated

The mention of a "chisel-shaped" edge for a barung is interesting. But I do have a shandigan barung that has swollen edge just on one side - thus it appears chisel-edged. I hope I can see that Leiden barung in person one of these days.

When I went to Spain last September, I was actually planning to go to Leiden, too. But I ran out of time -- that is, money So I'll do it next time, as circumstances will allow.

Thanks again for everything!

[Maurice]

Originally Posted by migueldiaz

I hope I can see that Leiden barung in person one of these days.
When I went to Spain last September, I was actually planning to go to Leiden, too. But I ran out of time -- that is, money So I'll do it next time, as circumstances will allow.

Well Lorenz, it is not that you would find actually all this stuff in the expositions in the museum. Most of it is not accesible for public unfortunately.

[Maurice]

A friendcollector of mine, and unfortunately ex-member of this forum, has given me permission to post images of his Borneo barung in this thread.

It is really a great piece, and actually there is a similar barung in a museum, but I can't recall which museum it was.
This must be a very scarce type, because in my years of collecting, I only know about this one, and the one in the museum.

Maurice

[Maurice]

I think such barung as this one (in my last post) hasn't been discussed in the forum yet (as far as I can see with the search function).....and not one comment at all after 4 days????

[Battara]

On rare occasion I have seen a piece like this and I also think this is from Borneo.

[migueldiaz]

Thanks again, Maurice. If ever the Leiden trip pushes through, I'll write to the curator beforehand to ask for permission (hopefully, he/she will grant it).

On a related matter, I think there's a team from the Philippines' national museum who go that Leiden museum from time to time to catalogue the Phil. items (and have in fact published at least one book already). It's cool that your country has preserved those Philippine pieces for study by generations to come

[Maurice]

Originally Posted by Battara

On rare occasion I have seen a piece like this and I also think this is from Borneo.

Thank you Jose,
Maybe somebody has one in his collection which he would like to share in this thread? I would like see more of these...

Originally Posted by Migueldiaz

If ever the Leiden trip pushes through, I'll write to the curator beforehand to ask for permission (hopefully, he/she will grant it).

Let me know when it is going to happen. It would be great to meet you guys in the Leiden depot.....

Originally Posted by Sajen

This barung is indeed a great piece like nearly all pieces in this collection.
Now I understand why you want to have a similar barung. ).

Absolutely true! I was looking for a good old style barung for quite a while. I wanted one to stay in my collection. Now I only need a shield, and I would be satisfied.... (well......almost satisfied).....

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Maurice

A friendcollector of mine, and unfortunately ex-member of this forum, has given me permission to post images of his Borneo barung in this thread.

It is really a great piece, and actually there is a similar barung in a museum, but I can't recall which museum it was.
This must be a very scarce type, because in my years of collecting, I only know about this one, and the one in the museum.

Maurice

This barung is indeed a great piece like nearly all pieces in this collection.
Now I understand why you want to have a similar barung.