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|  21st June 2005, 05:33 PM | #1 | 
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			I can see the beak (or is it a snout?), but I do not see a trunk - which now throws me off a little from the Ganesha theory as well   He/she/it is licking or chewing on something. But what is it, if not a trunk? | 
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|  21st June 2005, 05:53 PM | #2 | 
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			I see this as a trunk of Ganesha, son of Shiva and I think Parvati.  He gives good fortune.
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|  21st June 2005, 06:30 PM | #3 | 
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			What appears to be an elephant's trunk (note the cross section and the open tip) and tusks seem to be protruding from the beak.  The second k(e)ris handle lately that seems to depict a character with crossover features of two mythic/religious figures (Remember the monkey/bird?).  Are bird features commonly attributed/depicted for figures that are not birds?  Is disguise or transformation as a mythic theme perhaps relevant?  Or did Garuda eat Ganesh?  (tie in to legend/memory of the roc?) The left hand is making a sexual gesture/reference, and that reminds of another k(e)ris hilt we've recently seen, too. | 
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|  21st June 2005, 07:51 PM | #4 | 
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			Hanuman, perhaps?  That's not an elephant: it's something with a muzzle and either a long tongue or something else sticking out of its mouth. Fearn | 
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