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22nd November 2010, 11:35 AM
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I will just add one thing. The date of 1909 seems to fit with the construction of the piece. The carving, patina, deterioration of the pins, type of pins used etc. I'm absolutely sure that this isn't a later made piece with a comemorative earlier date.
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22nd November 2010, 12:26 PM
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Interesting kahnjar, but i don't quite see the connection of the snakes with hockey and i'm not sure we can connect Northfield to Montreal though we can find an English place for St. Laurence, Northfield.
I think the English at that time are far more likely to have some NZ connection than Canada and in the early 1900s the New Zealand Rugby Team "The Blacks" made frequent tours throughout Great Britian playing against British teams. I believe that they may have used this phrase as a rally cry. 
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22nd November 2010, 12:33 PM
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Looks like a pipe rack - failry common in the Edwardian period, when men smoked pipes rather than cigarettes...
It would be a shame to alter it... |
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22nd November 2010, 12:42 PM
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I agree it seems like it has to be a pipe rack, but its so damn big! Almost like it was made to sit outside a buildings entrance for visitors to leave their pipes in. But it's the combination of the moto, the snakes , the size etc making it a bit of a puzzler to me. Is it: be strong and avoid the temptation (snakes) of smoking? |
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22nd November 2010, 12:44 PM
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 ....but it is still full of mysteries....
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22nd November 2010, 12:46 PM
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Agreed. My plan now is careful restoration and it'll go on show with small objects on the lower large shelf. I love it to be honest! Edit: would have made a nice dagger rack though 
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22nd November 2010, 06:57 PM
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I ONLY KNOW WHAT LITTLE I HAVE SEEN IN MOVIES OR ON TV ABOUT ENGLISH GENTLEMANS CLUBS. PERHAPS A EXCLUSIVE GENTLEMANS CLUB OF THE PERIOD WOULD HAVE HAD SUCH A PIPE RACK AT THE CLUB FOR THE MEMBERS TO LEAVE THEIR PIPES AT THE CLUB. THE STEWARD COULD BRING THEM THEIR PIPE AND SOME TOBACCO WHEN REQUESTED. THEY COULD SMOKE AT THE CLUB EVEN IF THEIR WIFE DISSAPROVED OF THE HABIT IN THE HOME. THE ITEM IS CERTIANLY OF THE HIGH QUALITY WORKMANSHIP REQUIRED BY THE WEALTHY WHO WOULD HAVE BEEN MEMBERS OF SUCH CLUBS. JUST A THOUGHT
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