Moro Spear

[Reichsritter]

Originally Posted by freebooter

Hi Reichsritter,

Thank you for further insight and I am glad you are well.

Seeking further clarity on the subject of filipino spears;
Budjak = Budiak = spear and there is no naming difference between a chiseled example such as Lee's or Maurice's found in the links at the start and this one presented?
I hope you weaken enough to share anything else you can about the Budjak and the inscription.

regards

Gavin

Hi Gav-

No distinction, all spear for a Tausug is called Budjak. What I am intrigue here if who is Datu Jamil and Hashim in Sulu Genealogy. Im crossing my fingers that I can pinpoint who they are and what generation they lived.

By the way, it appears to me that Datu Hashim is an heir of Datu Jamil. The title was passed and maybe perhaps a responsiblity.

"Jamil" (meaning handsome) I think was more common name rather that Amil

[Gavin Nugent]

Originally Posted by Reichsritter

Hi Gav-

No distinction, all spear for a Tausug is called Budjak. What I am intrigue here if who is Datu Jamil and Hashim in Sulu Genealogy. Im crossing my fingers that I can pinpoint who they are and what generation they lived.

By the way, it appears to me that Datu Hashim is an heir of Datu Jamil. The title was passed and maybe perhaps a responsiblity.

"Jamil" (meaning handsome) I think was more common name rather that Amil

Hi Reichritter,

You obviously have very good resources. I would hazard a guess that you start with the WWII era and work back as this was from the estate of a Naval Gunnery SGT who was in the area in WWII...I hope that helps.

Gav

[Reichsritter]

Originally Posted by freebooter

Hi Reichritter,

You obviously have very good resources. I would hazard a guess that you start with the WWII era and work back as this was from the estate of a Naval Gunnery SGT who was in the area in WWII...I hope that helps.

Gav

Hi Gav-

It could be before WWII, but I'm looking far earlier. Things like these (including Kalis & Barung ) are heirlooms passed from generations together with the titles usually inherited by the eldest son. Remember, they practiced the traditional law of primogeniture.

[eric45]

very nice piece.
Eric