Old postcard with two dancers/warriors....

[Maurice]

Originally Posted by Atlantia

Well it certainly disturbed my lunch.

The blades we collect were not used to put butter on the bread!

[Atlantia]

Originally Posted by Maurice

The blades we collect were not used to put butter on the bread!

Hardly the same thing now is it?
Our blades don't come with a photobook of their 'exploits'.

[Maurice]

Originally Posted by Atlantia

Hardly the same thing now is it?
Our blades don't come with a photobook of their 'exploits'.

Indeed hardly the same thing, but I was responding to your comment concerning the lunch thing. And butter has to do with lunch, is it not?

Because I deepen a bit in dayak culture, I probably look at different eyes to this image as you do.

Maybe it is better to wait with your lunch after looking at the vikingsword forum?

Regards,
Maurice

[Atlantia]

Originally Posted by Maurice

Indeed hardly the same thing, but I was responding to your comment concerning the lunch thing. And butter has to do with lunch, is it not?

Because I deepen a bit in dayak culture, I probably look at different eyes to this image as you do.

Maybe it is better to wait with your lunch after looking at the vikingsword forum?

Regards,
Maurice

No, you are absolutely right Maurice.
I'm not trying to make an issue out of this Maurice. I would hate to offend you in any way.
The image was a bit 'sudden' for me though. I found it a little shocking after the rather nice staged first image.
I'm aware some people collect head-hunter stuff. But even a discussion of Igorot axes is a world away from pictures of severed heads.
IMHO we should link to pictures of a graphic nature rather than put them in threads.
Sorry if that seems sensitive, I see dead people every day at work, that's enough.

Peace my friend.
Gene

[Maurice]

Originally Posted by Atlantia

No, you are absolutely right Maurice.
I'm not trying to make an issue out of this Maurice. I would hate to offend you in any way.
The image was a bit 'sudden' for me though. I found it a little shocking after the rather nice staged first image.
I'm aware some people collect head-hunter stuff. But even a discussion of Igorot axes is a world away from pictures of severed heads.
IMHO we should link to pictures of a graphic nature rather than put them in threads.
Sorry if that seems sensitive, I see dead people every day at work, that's enough.

Peace my friend.
Gene

Gene,

I am not thinking you are making an issue out of it, and I am neither making an issue out of it and am sorry if it seemed like I do in my former posting.
I think I expressed it wrong what I meant.

I can understand the image can fall hard on an empty stomach to people.
But I have read a lot of dayaks and their customs, and therefore also of headhunting. And I think I have seen a lot of skulls on images in books, museums and even also in private collections, that I might became immune of these kind of images, and think they are interesting and fascinating, not because of the severed heads, but because of the reflection of headhunting and what it was all about.
I have seen images much worse and also made in present days, where people where killed because of aggression or evil persons, and not because the "adat" tells them to do so..

Regards,
Maurice

[Atlantia]

Originally Posted by Maurice

Gene,

I am not thinking you are making an issue out of it, and I am neither making an issue out of it and am sorry if it seemed like I do in my former posting.
I think I expressed it wrong what I meant.

I can understand the image can fall hard on an empty stomach to people.
But I have read a lot of dayaks and their customs, and therefore also of headhunting. And I think I have seen a lot of skulls on images in books, museums and even also in private collections, that I might became immune of these kind of images, and think they are interesting and fascinating, not because of the severed heads, but because of the reflection of headhunting and what it was all about.
I have seen images much worse and also made in present days, where people where killed because of aggression or evil persons, and not because the "adat" tells them to do so..

Regards,
Maurice

Your points are well made maurice.
Thank you for explaining them. You have a not offended me my friend, I am glad I have not offended you.

Best
Gene

[Maurice]

Originally Posted by Atlantia

Your points are well made maurice.
Thank you for explaining them. You have a not offended me my friend, I am glad I have not offended you.

Best
Gene

Hi Gene,

It takes a lot more to get me offended, and I am happy you aren't also.
Here another image, to keep up the good spirit, which I am sure you like a lot more.

It is a very old image, made around 1870, and also from Celebes.
It is a warrior of Manado (watch the spear)....

Kind Regards,
Maurice