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|  10th November 2010, 03:31 PM | #1 | 
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				 |  Saint Sebastian's martyrdom a la Portuguese 
			
			A first half XVI century painting by Gregório Lopes. Provenant from the Templar charola of the Convent of Tomar, presently at the Nationl Museum of Antique Arts in Lisbon. This is a detail of the painting, how it comes in the book "Eight centuries of hunting in Portugal", to emphasize the long bow, the sword and the crossbow. . | 
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|  10th November 2010, 04:37 PM | #2 | 
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			Well done, 'Nando,     Thank you! What wonderful weapons the Portuguese had ... The crossbow is clearly influenced by the mid-15th c. Italo-Spanish style, with a very delicate long tiller and and small indented steel bow. Also the quite developed form of the sword hilt is remarkable. I attach scans of a ca. 1450 Italian painting depicting similar bows and crossbows. Best, Michl | 
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|  10th November 2010, 05:00 PM | #3 | 
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			Thank you Michl, Poor Sebastian; those guys shoot at such a short range ! Here, i found the whole painting in the Web. ... more weapons and ...do i see a displeasing soldier holding a halberd in the inverted position? . | 
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|  10th November 2010, 05:31 PM | #4 | 
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			Oh yeah, This insubordinate guy seems to be scraping the earth with his halberd - it may have been his last deed before his beheading ...     m | 
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|  10th November 2010, 07:42 PM | #5 | 
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			Hi 'Nando, Please allow these to be 'stolen'  and reposted in my new thread http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=12849 Thanks, friend, Michl | 
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|  10th November 2010, 08:21 PM | #6 | 
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			By all means, Miguel     Be my guest   | 
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|  11th November 2010, 03:26 AM | #7 | 
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			I was humbly hoping for your kindest allowance, my dearest friend Sir!     Thanks as much as always, Michl | 
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