Ethnographic Arms & Armour
 

Go Back   Ethnographic Arms & Armour > Discussion Forums > European Armoury
FAQ Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 3rd November 2010, 09:38 PM   #1
cornelistromp
Member
 
cornelistromp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 1,063
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Matchlock
There are hundreds of detached original pommels in various conditions on the market every year, and almost all of them are purchased by dealers and forgers. Can you image the reason?

Best,
Michael
Hi Michael,

of course I know and see a lot of replaced pommels, especially on medieval swords. recently I noticed a cast one at a London auction house which gave
some discussion just before the sale.

I must admit it is very amusing to see that you changed your mind on this pommel from an inapt English ground find to "maybe" belonging to this piece

Kind regards from Holland
cornelistromp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd November 2010, 11:00 PM   #2
Matchlock
(deceased)
 
Matchlock's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking
Posts: 4,310
Default

Hi Cornelis,

Please remember we all had to rely on photos, and almost anything is possible ...

Though I usually have a well based opinion at the point of posting, I try not to be too dogmatic.

Good night and be well,
Michael

Last edited by Matchlock; 4th November 2010 at 10:51 PM.
Matchlock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 5th November 2010, 10:48 AM   #3
fernando
(deceased)
 
fernando's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Portugal
Posts: 9,694
Default

New pictures.
This time in my back veranda, with daylight, before the sun hits the place.

.
Attached Images
    
fernando is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 5th November 2010, 03:34 PM   #4
Matchlock
(deceased)
 
Matchlock's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking
Posts: 4,310
Default

Thank you, 'Nando,

Now it's clear even to me that the pitting of the pommel and blade is homogenuous.

Please bury my theories at Wounded Knee ...

Best,
Michl
Matchlock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31st May 2022, 02:41 AM   #5
werecow
Member
 
werecow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2021
Location: Leiden, NL
Posts: 603
Default

I thought I'd add two similar ones I ran into recently. This first one is listed on a German site as "Rapier, deutsch um 1600". The inscription is hard to read but according to the seller it's "MERTEN STOS ME FECIT", which sounds German. The quillons are slightly different, maybe a slightly wider blade, different grip wire, wider pommel. Otherwise identical.
Attached Images
     

Last edited by werecow; 31st May 2022 at 01:41 PM.
werecow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31st May 2022, 02:43 AM   #6
werecow
Member
 
werecow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2021
Location: Leiden, NL
Posts: 603
Default

This second one is listed as "ENGLISH DUELING RAPIER C.1625". No thrust plate on this one, but the pommel is more similar. Marked "THOMAS D AIELES".
Attached Images
     

Last edited by werecow; 31st May 2022 at 01:43 PM.
werecow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11th September 2025, 12:23 PM   #7
werecow
Member
 
werecow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2021
Location: Leiden, NL
Posts: 603
Default

I spotted another interesting speciment today that has Fleurs de Lys markings on the guard but is otherwise very similar to the example in the OP. Interesting, given that this group is typically associated with Germany, the Netherlands or sometimes the UK.
Attached Images
   
werecow is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 05:20 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Posts are regarded as being copyrighted by their authors and the act of posting material is deemed to be a granting of an irrevocable nonexclusive license for display here.