How late 15th to mid 16th century guns were aimed, in historic illustrations

Spiridonov · 31st October 2010, 09:13 PM

Hallow, Michael! Thank you for sharing this. I have not seen this picture before. In which manuscript it is?

Spiridonov · 31st October 2010, 10:29 PM

it seems that we can see the matchcords which is hanging on the fingers:

Matchlock · 31st October 2010, 11:56 PM

Hello, Alexender,

In Koch's book which I cited in full it sadly just says 'British Library', without mentioning the manuscript. So: sorry.

Honestly, I do not believe that the items you encircled are actual lengths of matchcord. If you look at the sources I posted at the beginning, on top of this thread, you will notice that 15th and early 16th c. matchcords were much thicker than these seem to be.

Best,
Michael

Spiridonov · 1st November 2010, 09:11 AM

Hallo, dear Michael.Thanks for answear. May be You are right, but the image is too arbitrary, imprecise and sketchy. So everything is possible ...

Matchlock · 1st November 2010, 05:34 PM

Absolutely, Alexender!

m

Spiridonov · 14th November 2010, 10:59 AM

From Karls picasaweb: http://picasaweb.google.com/karl.perron
there are mistake in the title of authors photos. I think that it is a late 15 century but not a late 14 century

Matchlock · 14th November 2010, 06:07 PM

Brilliant, Alexander,

Thanks a lot for sharing these!

And: you're right of course, these are can be dated to ca. 1470-80.

Best,
Michael

31st October 2010, 10:29 PM	#2
Spiridonov Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Russia, Leningrad Posts: 355	it seems that we can see the matchcords which is hanging on the fingers: Attached Images

14th November 2010, 10:59 AM	#6
Spiridonov Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Russia, Leningrad Posts: 355	From Karls picasaweb: http://picasaweb.google.com/karl.perron there are mistake in the title of authors photos. I think that it is a late 15 century but not a late 14 century Last edited by Spiridonov; 14th November 2010 at 11:17 AM.

31st October 2010, 09:13 PM	#1
Spiridonov Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Russia, Leningrad Posts: 355	Hallow, Michael! Thank you for sharing this. I have not seen this picture before. In which manuscript it is?

31st October 2010, 11:56 PM	#3
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Hello, Alexender, In Koch's book which I cited in full it sadly just says 'British Library', without mentioning the manuscript. So: sorry. Honestly, I do not believe that the items you encircled are actual lengths of matchcord. If you look at the sources I posted at the beginning, on top of this thread, you will notice that 15th and early 16th c. matchcords were much thicker than these seem to be. Best, Michael

1st November 2010, 09:11 AM	#4
Spiridonov Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Russia, Leningrad Posts: 355	Hallo, dear Michael.Thanks for answear. May be You are right, but the image is too arbitrary, imprecise and sketchy. So everything is possible ...

1st November 2010, 05:34 PM	#5
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Absolutely, Alexender! m

14th November 2010, 06:07 PM	#7
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Brilliant, Alexander, Thanks a lot for sharing these! And: you're right of course, these are can be dated to ca. 1470-80. Best, Michael