Rusted 17th C persian shamshir within decayed scabbard

[Rick]

Oh dear ...

[celtan]

Didn't work either, eventually a hole was created through the glue itsel,and the PJ ended up in the floor. I then used the old tomato paste trick, and followed with a brass brush and fine grit sand paper/ wire-mesh. Then waxed the blade. Here's the result so far:

Originally Posted by Rick

Oh dear ...

[katana]

Hi Celtan,
looking good so far ....a suggestion for sealing the end of the pipe...a condom ...yes you read that right Perhaps several one over the other to create a thicker layer and a few rubber bands to help secure to the pipe more firmly....

Regards David

[celtan]

So obvious! I'm forever ashamed...

: )

Originally Posted by katana

Hi Celtan,
looking good so far ....a suggestion for sealing the end of the pipe...a condom ...yes you read that right Perhaps several one over the other to create a thicker layer and a few rubber bands to help secure to the pipe more firmly....

Regards David

[celtan]

David,
Do you think I should go beyond what I have already done? I mean, I don't want to overdo it, and end up with a character-less blade.
Best
M

Originally Posted by celtan

So obvious! I'm forever ashamed...

: )

[katana]

Originally Posted by celtan

David,
Do you think I should go beyond what I have already done? I mean, I don't want to overdo it, and end up with a character-less blade.
Best
M

Sorry Manuel I missed your post ,....the million dollar question, each individual has he or she's 'limit'. I treat each sword differently ....some I feel are better with more cleaning, others less. I always err to 'less' to preserve it's history. Personally I think the dark patches of what appears to be raised (above the general surface) 'scaly' patches should be removed.....generally these raised areas (if indeed yours are?) tend to have active rust within them, similar to a 'blister'.(actually the steel seems to delaminate with rust between each layer)

To remove them I very gently scrape them with a small sharp blade, I know many would make a face like this ....but I find it a good way to remove these areas without unnecessary sanding of the blade surface surrounding these 'blisters'.

All the best
David

[Ibrahiim al Balooshi]

Originally Posted by katana

Sorry Manuel I missed your post ,....the million dollar question, each individual has he or she's 'limit'. I treat each sword differently ....some I feel are better with more cleaning, others less. I always err to 'less' to preserve it's history. Personally I think the dark patches of what appears to be raised (above the general surface) 'scaly' patches should be removed.....generally these raised areas (if indeed yours are?) tend to have active rust within them, similar to a 'blister'.(actually the steel seems to delaminate with rust between each layer)

To remove them I very gently scrape them with a small sharp blade, I know many would make a face like this ....but I find it a good way to remove these areas without unnecessary sanding of the blade surface surrounding these 'blisters'.

All the best
David

Salaams, Nice job so far though I dont know why this thread has apparently stalled... My advice is drop the blade into coke for a day or two... and second but more agressive is to use lemon salt... To remove rust patches and spots seen on your last photo use aluminium foil ... use as you would use sandpaper but with aluminium foil you are at the finest level of abrasion ... in fact it isn't abrasion ... more like molecular technology involving ions or somesuch molecular majic... it is superb for rubbing out rust spots but it takes a lot of numb finger rubbing.. Aluminium foil !!! Marvellous !

Regards Ibrahiim al Balooshi.